November 03, 2005
New Tax Proposed by Democrat
(Jefferson City, Missouri) Missouri State Representative Jeff Roorda (D) was so humiliated by the St. Louis Cardinals' defeat in the Major League Baseball Playoffs that he has
decided to take action. Blaming the Cardinals' losses on the umpires, Roorda wants to punish them where it hurts, in their wallets.
"I think if they're not going to pay attention, they ought to at least pay taxes," Roorda said Wednesday."
As a result, Roorda promised to introduce legislation in December to tax umpires and referees.
So, fans shouting the rhetorical 'Kill the ump!' will be replaced with the real-life 'Tax the ump!' And, I'm sure the politicians won't allow deductions for favorable calls.
Or, will they?
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More rediclous tantrums by the demacratic whimps whats with these idiots? thats what you call poor sportsmanship
Posted by: sandpiper at November 03, 2005 08:42 AM (lIqve)
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How about we start taxing democraps? Say... a pound of flesh?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 03, 2005 09:43 AM (0yYS2)
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I live in STL and this story is for real. The Post Dispatch is covering it also. ItÂ’s an embarrassment, and I have to think that if the tax did pass, the umps are going to be thinking about that tax rate that they are subject to in Missouri as they call the game, donÂ’t you think??????
Posted by: steve at November 03, 2005 11:25 AM (4M3qh)
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I'm not surprised... this has been going on with athletes for a while. After the Bulls beat the Lakers in the NBA finals back in 1991(?), some government out here passed a law that says that athletes on road trips have to pay tax on the money they made for games in those cities. Apparently it's rather common now.
Posted by: KG at November 03, 2005 01:14 PM (eRMCR)
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Ya know, one of the silver linings I see in the dark cloud on the horizon of Western civilization is that when society collapses, we can round up the parasites and hang them all.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 03, 2005 01:57 PM (0yYS2)
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Ah a Democrat and his taxes. A clear (if accidental) insight on how Democrats view the concept of taxation. Not only as a revenue source to fund government requirements - but as a tool to achieve a desired social goal and a weapon to punish and harrass their perceived "enemies".
Anyone remember the attempt to tax ammunition by 1000 percent. Can't erase the 2nd ammendment then tax it out of existance. I have many more examples.
This is why not only is tax reform so important - but reason to fight over the original conceptual intent of taxation in the first place.
Posted by: hondo at November 03, 2005 04:44 PM (ymtSt)
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Steve: I just returned to Mississippi from St Louis. I really enjoyed your city. Charlie Gitto and his lovely wife Karen are the nicest people I have met in a long time. Charlie Gitto's pasta is downtown across from the St Louis Bread Company. Try it sometime. The pictures of sports figures covering the walls are worth the trip. The food is great to. Warning, totally packed on game day. Doesn't matter. Baseball, football or hockey. Only sports bar I could find was Helen Fitzgerald's near Comp USA. But they were to cheap to have Pay for view. I know there are others, just didn't have time to find them.
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November 02, 2005
Ayup, There Goes That Secret
The problem with secrets is that if more than one person knows about it,
it's not really a secret:
Nov. 2, 2005 — The CIA has operated a secret prison system where more than 100 terror suspects have been locked up since Sept. 11.
The so-called "black sites" — which were so covert that only a handful of government officials even knew about them until today — operated over the past four years in eight different countries, including Thailand, Afghanistan and several Eastern European states, according to a story first reported today in the Washington Post.
Well, gee, where were they supposed to be held? Okay, don't answer that, but you get my point.
The good news is, if the press is on to this, then these jokers have been moved to other "black sites."
This, however, is hilarious:
What troubles many in the international community is the lack of oversight of interrogation techniques used at these secret lockups.
A recent Amnesty International report tells of two Yemeni prisoners held in a secret U.S. detention facility who say they were kept in an underground cell with Western music piped in 24 hours a day for well over a year, and interrogated daily by U.S. guards who were fully covered "like ninjas."
"The one overriding reason for such a facility is to torture those in detention," said Mark Garlasco of Human Rights Watch. "So that they are away from any prying eyes from the public and from the media."
First off, who gives a flying fart in a potato sack what the "international community" thinks. We're Team America.
And lo! Western music playing 24 hours, the heart, it doth bleed! The torture! And the guards dressed like ninjas? Why, I believe that Amnesty International is blatantly racist against Japanese by claiming that dressing like a ninja is somehow negative.
Keep trying, keep trying. Try all you want, but Abu Ghraib never was that big of a deal to the public at large to begin with, and trying to repeat what small success you had will fail miserably. Of course, we all know the definition of insane: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Only the far out moonbat left, and their MSM syncophants, will ever have sympathy for terrorists.
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Ya know, I get the feeling that the only hearts that are bleeding over this are the usuals. If one were to randomly ask real people in any average American town or city these questions; is it acceptable to use painful, coersive interrogation to save lives? And if not, how many lives of innocent men, women, and children is it worth?, one might not be surprised at the answer. Most people I talk to, including some otherwise flaming liberals, think that sometimes, we just gotta do what we gotta do. The media and the fringe moonbats, including elected moonbats and appeasers like good ol' Stockholm McCain, seem to be the most concerned about the comfort and well-being of terrorists and murderers. Those who ask our trust are the worst betrayers of that trust.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 03, 2005 12:45 AM (0yYS2)
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1) first verify - This expose' is real short on any verifiable details and I have seen quoted 8-10 facilities & 30 to 100 prisoners - do the math ... seems kinda stupid to build a "facility" when your space requirements appear to be the equivalent of a coupla hotelrooms.
2) the yemeni story is old news - and as far as I can tell never successfully verified. The original story has some pretty weird and outlandish claims too as I recall. Seems they've toned it down a bit save the ninja suits. Personally I rate it up their with the Koran flushed down the toilet story from Gitmo. I know Army toilets - a few Bounty towels will clog those damn things.
The left EXPECTS AND WANTS US to say "so what!" They actually use that as prove it must be true. Don't give them jack. Let's get the facts first then defend if necessary.
Never assume the stuff from them (MSM) is true. Like that wedding in Iraq at 2 in the morning with video shot immediately by guests (in direct sunlight of course) - or American soldiers raping an Iraqi woman (photos courtesy a porn film from Hungary. I could easily go on.
Posted by: hondo at November 03, 2005 01:08 AM (ymtSt)
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Hmmm...Was it "Western" or "Country Western" music being played? Can make an argument that CW is torture....
Posted by: MKL at November 03, 2005 01:41 AM (cKX2r)
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There's a reality show in Britain, where the contestants are submitted to same kinds of torture/"torture" the Abu Ghraib prisoners/"prisoners" allegedly/"allegedly" receive. By what I've watched, that music thing seems to be damn near to killing them. I pretty much hate most music and movies, so music all day long, especially Aquilera or country music, would be way worse than for example hanging upside down over a pile of shit.
Posted by: A Finn at November 03, 2005 04:28 AM (cWMi4)
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As a freedom loving brit in FULL support of George n' Tony, i really don't give a shit about the welfare of terrorists conditions/treatment in custody. There is a huge debate and struggle going on in UK 'cause some normal folks want to simply deport undesirables back to where they came from. However, due to some "human rights act" which most of europe has signed up to, it prevents the return of anyone to their own country if that country has the death penalty or "questionable" detention/interrogation methods. Who gives a damn what happens to scumbags/terrorists etc. if their guilt is proven. It would be better to simply hang them and bury them in pigs offal while islamic clerics were made to look on. They would no longer be eligible to enter paradise and no 72 virgins either. The affects around the world of such action would put suicide bombers out of action overnight.
Posted by: dav t at November 03, 2005 07:24 AM (wI1q4)
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ditto, ditto, maybe, really?, ditto, and Vinnie: bravo.
Posted by: Impatient Girl at November 03, 2005 09:05 AM (ftixA)
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I'm with ya dav t; I say wire the bastards up and plug 'em in until they feel chatty, then put 'em to work mucking out pig barns.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 03, 2005 09:50 AM (0yYS2)
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Does torture give verifiably positive results ? Is the intel obtained good ? How did Americans like "Stockholm McCain" react ? What are the possible down sides of using means such as these? Should they have been used in other wars ? i.e. "the cold war" or "the war on drugs" ? Is torture against the principles of our own religion ? Might such behavior result in us winning the battle but losing the war ? Certainly if there was a unanimous opinion on this at Langley these "secrets" would not have been put forth for public scrutiny.
Posted by: john Ryan at November 03, 2005 09:59 AM (ads7K)
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Yet another story wrote simply to smear the administration, the problem with these stories of "secret prisons" where jihadi's are kept in a perpetual twenty-four hour state of depravation/torture is this:
1. If it is a secret prison, it is most likely that the U.S would disavow holding the people detained, because if they did not they would be required to give access to humanitarian organizations, independent medical examiners etc.
2. If the prisoners are disavowed, they will never face trial, as their intelligence usefulness degrades the longer they are in captivity they become more of a liability to maintain than they're worth.
3. With the above in mind, it would be easier to detain the prisoners on a civilian boat or oilrig, in cargo containers, once the detainers intelligence worth is degraded to a point they're no longer worth keeping, one could execute them and destroy/bury the body at sea, without risking an international incident.
If the CIA was a quarter as apt as hollywood and the media portray them, these people would have been kidnapped/assassinated from countries all over the world in a program pushed by deniable culpability, like the so called "Wet works" programs Hollywood would have us believe goes on.
Posted by: dave at November 03, 2005 10:19 AM (CcXvt)
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"If the CIA was a quarter as apt as hollywood and the media portray them..."
Thanks for that. People who think the CIA is an infallible shadow brotherhood, like a bunch of ninjas with James Bond gadgets, need to remember this: the CIA hired Valerie "Vanity Fair" Plame.
Posted by: File Closer at November 03, 2005 07:06 PM (xvfRU)
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The CIA hasn't been anything but an Ivy League country club for analysts since Jimmah tried his hand at screwing things up. Carter should be hanged as a traitor, there is more evidence against him than Bubba and Hitlery combined.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 03, 2005 08:22 PM (0yYS2)
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To Hell With the Navy! GO AIR FORCE!
Don't listen to Vinnie, he's used to being underway or something. The way to donate to
Project Valour-IT is for the US Air Force team headed up by
The Mudville Gazette.
I'm in the US Air Force and I was able to come up with $25.00 so I know you wealthy civilians can give at least ten bucks.
UPDATE: Vinnie thinks he's cool by updating his post and date/time group. Figures the USN backers would resort to dirty, low-blow tricks.
UPDATE: Vinnie and I have come to a mutual agreement regarding the positioning of our posts. Vinnie now understands that the US Air Force flies higher than the US Navy and that regardless of what team you contribute to we appreciate everything you're doing for our brothers and sisters in arms.
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he got you too eh? Go ARMY!
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Posted by: caltechgirl at November 02, 2005 10:39 PM (uI/79)
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Give up while you're still behind, flyboy.
:-)
Posted by: Vinnie at November 02, 2005 10:57 PM (Kr6/f)
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Alright, I give up, I have to go to bed anyway. We don't want to peeve our fellow co-bloggers either, so no sticky posts at the top for a week.
Posted by: Vinnie at November 02, 2005 11:04 PM (Kr6/f)
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Easy enough. Just don't try and "it's not gay if it's underway" me while I'm asleep later.
Posted by: Chris Short at November 02, 2005 11:13 PM (0OCQY)
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Go Navy!! And Marines, Air Force, and Army.
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Join The Navy And Raise Some Coin
I'm
joining the Navy team for Project Valour-IT.
Give early, give often.
Now would be a good time to spend like a drunken sailor.
Oh, what is the Valour-IT fundraising about?
Click here to find out. For more info about the competition, go here.
Go Navy!
UPDATE: An update already?
Yup. Just to let you know I donated, that's me on the top. Eric is my real name, and I donated $200, a hundred for my blog, a hundred on behalf of the Jawa Report.
UPDATE II: I now have a permanent button at Vince Aut Morire, so that I don't have to keep pushing the Air Farce puke down the page!
Oh, and non-bloggers can help raise the money too, by downloading the flyers!
Ok, one last UPDATE: The Vinnies don't ask you to do something without doing it themselves. Da wife threw a couple coins in the basket too, from her own PP account. She's the "Merri from NE" under the "view all."
Really, I don't care what team you donate under, we all have the same goal, and we all get to have a little fun at the expense of the inherent inter-service rivalries.
THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO'S DONATED! THANKS IN ADVANCE TO ANYONE WHO DOES!!!!
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For those of you who prefer donating to a team of sailors you can go
here 
BEAT ARMY!!!! GO NAVY!!!!
But seriously, EVERY donation goes to this wonderful project. You can donate to Team
Zoomie or Team
Jarhead too, if you like.
Posted by: caltechgirl at November 02, 2005 06:53 PM (uI/79)
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Funny. I can troll edit too ya' know.
Posted by: caltechgirl at November 02, 2005 08:32 PM (uI/79)
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For all the bluster, buster, all I see if you've got half of what we have.
Pllllppppttt!
C'mon, Sailors, can't you do any better than that?
Or are y'all too busy doing PT now for the first time in years?
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Sheehan For Carpetbagger
When
Newsmax and the
Village Voice report nearly identical political stories on the same day it can mean only one thing. Someone's been planting a story. Shenanigans are afoot.
From Newsmax:
Will Cindy Sheehan challenge Hillary Clinton for her Senate seat in 2006?
That's the proposition percolating throughout New York's anti-war left, which has grown increasingly frustrated with Sen. Clinton's refusal to denounce the Bush administration's Iraq policy.
From the
Village Voice:
Cindy Sheehan, a/k/a the "peace mom," probably never intended to sound like a candidate, but she did. Sheehan, the activist who became the face of anti-war sentiment after camping outside President Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas, last summer, had just mounted the podium at the Brooklyn Peace Fair on October 22. And already she was getting political.
Farbeit from me to imply that candidates can't prosper by counting on the stupidity of New York City voters (Upstate New York, a red state within a blue state, doesn't have a large enough population to have a say in electing Senators or Presidents). They certainly can, as seen by the urbanites' election of Hillary the Carpetbagger and the equally ineffectual Chuck Schumer. So, it's possible that Saint Cindy is planning a serious run for NYC Senator.
More likely, Sheehan is simply a stalking horse for Hillary's re-election to the Senate and anticipated run for the White House. There's obviously no way that Hillary is going to run for President successfully as a liberal. That makes Sheehan's antics just so, so convenient politically, as a way to allow Clinton to pretend to be a moderate Democrat in 2008. The real question here is, what did Hill promise Sheehan and her followers? Support for a cut-and-run policy? A place in the cabinet?
That's not to say that there's anything illegal with clandestine collusion between Clinton and Sheehan. Just an indication that the wife shares the husband's character.
Also posted at The Dread Pundit Bluto, but ask yourself one question before you click on this link. "Am I cool enough to visit Bluto's crib?"
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Sheehan is to Hillary as mutton is to a wolf.
Interesting theory about Hillary leveraging CShee for moderate political footing, but I don't buy it. That Hillary Bitch is trying to out Neocon the Ziocons. She's an adjunct Senator for Israel. I'd vote for CShee over Hilllary in a minute.
Bluto,
This post is an attempt to entice those who are unsure of their coolness, into a discussion.
Posted by: menenzes' ghost at November 02, 2005 07:37 PM (TVaWo)
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greg is right. This is an obvious ploy by the Village Voice types in the Democrat party to make Hilary look moderate and electable. Who cares, it's not real.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at November 02, 2005 07:46 PM (8e/V4)
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That's what I get for skimming. You're wrong greg. It's a ploy. I wish Hilary were a neocon, but she's not. She's just faking it.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at November 02, 2005 07:48 PM (8e/V4)
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CShee is a Bitchee who couldn't win a political race unless she happened to be in an insane asylum. Oh, did you say New York City? She could win.
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 02, 2005 07:48 PM (rUyw4)
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I agree she's a fake.
OOoooh! OOoooH! Yeah baby!
(Hillary Faking It)
Posted by: menenzes' ghost at November 02, 2005 08:03 PM (TVaWo)
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Anyone want to join me for iceskating in hell? Greg is right, in his own X-Files-esque "there's-a-jooo-under-my-bed" paranoid sort of way. That, however, does not negate the fact that whether Cindy is only acting to make Hitlery more palatable, or is high as a kite on her fifteen minutes of fame and thinks she could actually win, neither scenario is good news for the Dhimmicrats. The Barking Moonbat vote is probably about 10% of the Dhimmi's constituency, if not more, and if a strong Republican, or even a less repulsive Democrat with less baggage, were to challenge Hitlery, the fraction that Our Lady of the Ditch would take from her could be a death blow. My only question is: Where do I send the donations to Cindy's campaign?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 02, 2005 08:11 PM (0yYS2)
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The Republicans are unlikely to waste a strong candidate on a New York Senate race, but anyway, Cindy doesn't really have to run, just make noises about it. It's all about perception and soundbites. Hillary can't run for the White House as a liberal. Sheehan's actions help build the moderate myth.
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All true Bluto, but I think the libtards are the only ones stupid enough to think that casting the Ditch Witch opposite Hitlery will do anything but highlight their similarities rather than differences. Giuliani could beat her hands-down, but I think he's deluding himself that he could be President. Perhaps he could be Condi's VP, but he's too nice to be President. We need a firebrand, and Condi is as fiery as they come.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 03, 2005 12:49 AM (0yYS2)
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Maxie!!!!!!!!
Rudy nice? He's one vindictive mean tough SOB with one really abrasive personality!!! And I voted for him 3 times!!! Joke here in NY is even his own friends don't like him! He saved this city but sure as hell not with his pleasant smile.
9/11 I was on site almost immediately working with the water evacuation - headed inland with some PD and deckhands looking to guide stragglers down to the Marina and Battery Park - we actually ran into Rudy & crew - friend said he must be a fuckin' idiot to be down here - well - we were all down there sooooo .....
nice - he ain't - good & tough yes.
Posted by: hondo at November 03, 2005 01:23 AM (ymtSt)
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I don't think there is anything to read into the two stories. NewsMax is a tabloid and the Village Voice couldn't survive anywhere BUT in a Moonbat colony.
Cindy would have to move to NY to run. She couldn't survive ten minutes in NY. She ain't tough enough. What's she gonna do anyway?
Cry for votes? "Vote for me! [sniffle, snork]"
Hillary's losing her base with every mention of the war. To be in cahoots with Cindy on boosting her image as a moderate would only make things worse. She won't gain enough votes on the right to make up for her lost votes on the left. The only votes she'll gain on the right is weak-willed women. And trust me. She probably thought at first that Cindy was "cool", but since Cindy's insulted her .... whoa nellie .... hell hath no wrath like Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Oyster at November 03, 2005 06:27 AM (YudAC)
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Hillary's base isn't going to vote for a Republican. Not even if Hillary comes out for invading Iran and Syria and names Adolf Hitler as her running mate. She knows that. They'll squawk and whine, but they'll still back Hillary. I don't see what she has to lose by trying to hide her true colors and run from the center.
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Okay, not her "far-left" base, but if Hillary runs against someone like McCain in '08 she'll lose a number of those democrats just left of center. If she runs against a republican further from center, it'll be a different story.
Betcha.
Posted by: Oyster at November 03, 2005 09:44 AM (fl6E1)
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Bluto, I'm afraid you might be right, especially about Hitler, who would definitely help soften her public image.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 03, 2005 09:47 AM (0yYS2)
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actually, if you cut New York City out of new york, Bush would have seriously still lost. Same if you add westchester and long island.
additionally, chuck schumer won every county in NY except for hamilton in 04. ineffectual? he's chair of the DSCC!? You could make the argument that he barely won in 1998, but it was against a republican born also born in NYC and raised on Long Island.
I'm also tired of these arguments about how people in rural areas don't have a say just because there are fewer of them. JUST because there a fewer of them?
If upstate wants to succeed that's great. I'll take the 89% of the tax revenue that the city (49%) long island, rockland, and westchester (40%) send to the state and improve subways and schools.
In a lot of ways, this is symptomatic of much of the rest of the country. Small red-state populations complaining about waste imposed by blue-state liberals who are actually paying the most into the treasury and getting the least back.
Hillary needs to swing towards the center, and frankly, cindy sheehan doesn't matter. didn't matter for bush, will matter less for clinton. she could eat a baby and kick a priest in the balls and she would still trounce pirro by 20+ points.
Posted by: FU at November 03, 2005 04:10 PM (JJYcT)
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Cindy and hillary sister carpet baggers
Posted by: sandpiper at November 03, 2005 08:09 PM (I9Upt)
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FU: Don't throw me in dat briar patch, Br'er Fox. We've been begging you City parasites to let us secede for years. You've bled us dry, first by attracting Welfare recipients from the entire Eastern seaboard and Puerto Rico, now by voting as a bloc to consume the lion's share of not only State income, but Federal funds, as well.
The population of New York State is 19 million. 11 million live in NYC and account for the common interest (something for nothing) voting bloc that elects NYS Senators and decides electoral votes. Just like a typically provincial NYC lib to consider 8 million people a "small rural population".
You also might want to check on just how much the City is getting back, and in what ways. People die up here every winter for want of money to salt and plow state roads. Of course those who die are only useless rural trash in your eyes, but still. Also look into income from the Port Authority, too, which is a drain on State resources, but enriches City coffers.
I was being kind to Shumer. He's worse than ineffectual. He's part of the Dem minority that is hoping for the GWOT to go south. Hillary, too, no matter how many sausages she gobbles at the state fair.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at November 03, 2005 08:38 PM (RHG+K)
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Remember brer rabbit was born in the briar patch
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The Left Speaks With Forked Tongue.
Ever wonder why the left is always on the negative? Why despite so many successes they scream defeat? Because they think if they just shout the same message long enough and loud enough it will become true. Sadly a good portion of the public does fall prey to this strategy.
Boston Globe registration required : That depends on what you consider ''important." Do you see the war against radical Islam and Ba'athist fascism as the most urgent conflict of our time? Do you believe that replacing tyranny with democratic self-government is ultimately the only antidote to the poison that has made the Middle East so dangerous and violent? If so, you'll have no trouble identifying the most significant development in Iraq last week: the landslide victory of the new Iraqi Constitution.
Also see Rantingprof :
You would think the left would be all happy about a black being elected unless that black man is conservative.
More left twisty stuff from Michelle Malkin.
Malkin : These are words you did not read in the New York Times. They are the words of the late Corporal Jeffrey B. Starr, whose letter to his girlfriend in case of death in Iraq was selectively edited by the Times to convey a bogus sense of "fatalism."
Our Friend Filthy has a great post on the hypocrisy of the left. See this direct link to the post in case you are kind of sensitive. No really itÂ’s good stuff.
Don't get the impression that you arouse my anger. You see, one can only be angry with those he respects(RMN). I've found very little reason to respect much in Washington. But at least the right seems to know what side our side is. If the left thinks the middle of Republican party (that would be me) is going to go with them by default they could not be more wrong. It takes concrete ideas and I could not be more turned off than I am right now.
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http://www.topplebush.com/oped2290.shtml
Posted by: Route Irish at November 02, 2005 06:04 PM (Eh9tH)
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Hi Route Irish. How are you? Ya don't say.... Really? Well, have a nice day. See ya next post.
Posted by: Oyster at November 02, 2005 06:13 PM (YudAC)
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There's a blog called toppleBush.com. I bet it is fair and balanced.
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 02, 2005 07:53 PM (rUyw4)
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Route Irish is deaf. That is why he/she never says anything. Lay off, Oyster.
j/k
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 02, 2005 08:08 PM (rUyw4)
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051103/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq;_ylt=AtmfD_zQA7w7Q0mXvOuTlDqs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b3JuZGZhBHNlYwM3MjE-
Posted by: Route Irish at November 02, 2005 08:12 PM (Eh9tH)
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Heh. It really is funny that this moron keeps excreting links and fleeing, thinking he's struck a mighty blow. You keep fighting the power buddy!
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 03, 2005 09:55 AM (0yYS2)
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IM,
I've never even been to a single one of his links. I'm too lazy to type all those numbers and letters in. HaHa!
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 03, 2005 10:28 AM (rUyw4)
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JJ, all you have to do is highlight the string and copy it, then paste to your browser. I catalog them in a folder named "stupidity and propaganda", in order to use them as evidence when the mass-hangings begin.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 03, 2005 11:16 AM (0yYS2)
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I'm too lazy to highlight them, too. They do not interest me in the least.
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 03, 2005 03:30 PM (rUyw4)
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Like I said, evidence.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 03, 2005 04:42 PM (0yYS2)
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WTW DICK DICK Van DICK err uh Durbin
You know work sucks. Monday started out OK but I ended up getting calls all night and finished about 4:30 AM Tuesday. Then back on for a Telco Tuesday from 7:30 till 11:30 am. Now thatÂ’s what I call a long day. Yesterday afternoon as I was preparing to live blog a touching episode of Little House on the Prairie and take a nap there was news everywhere, Darn. So I was able to find several candidates to trash today and also get a nap. Sorry I was unable to get to the LHOP. The wife and I played Charles and Carolyn instead.
First up is my wretched Senator DICK Durbin whom IÂ’m kind of torn about. I mean I want to see him out but if some guy like Shimkus runs and beats him where will I get material? Dick just does not get that I see right through the politics of his actions this week. Still waiting on a positive idea from you sir. IÂ’m not holding my breath.
"It's a question about whether or not anyone in this administration in any way misused or distorted intelligence," Durbin said. He said senators "owe the American people some straight answers."
OK since time is short IÂ’ll just let Glen Reynolds take care of you for me. Cause with friends like you our enemy is in good shape. How about we win first and squabble later, novel idea.
Reynolds on MSNBC: Well, okay -- but then the investigation needs to go way back before the war, to 1998, when a Democratic President and a Democratic Congress passed the Iraq Liberation Act.
OK so you can hardly nominate DICK this week without a mention of Harry Reid. IÂ’m not from Nevada but I felt better that I was not in the only state with a moonbat Senator. Hey Boys in case you have not noticed there is a war on right now. You can whine all you want about how it started. No votes for anyone who wants to drag up some more mud and hinder progress with cheap political bullshit. In all fairness to Reid he supports my right to flame him here which almost redeems him sorta.
OK letÂ’s add to the list Gov Rob Blagojevich. My fine ILL Republicans have been keeping tabs on him for me. LetsÂ’ see what they have in the newsletter this week below the break.
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"Two years after the nation's deadly anthrax attacks, the FBI still has not been able to re-create the process the killer used to produce the substance sent through the U.S. mail, a top FBI official said Monday."
The FBI should just shut the hell up, because every time they come out with another of these lame stories, it just hammers home the point that there is a cover-up in this case.
As a reminder; the anthrax used in the letters was genetically identical to a strain maintained at US bioweapons labs at Fort Detrick. The anthrax used in the letters was also "weaponized", consistent with manufacture in a full level-four weapons laboratory. Such labs also have the hot-boxes needed to insert the anthrax into letters without exposing the perpetrator.
It should come as no surprise that the FBI, in its total focus on Stephen Hatfill, has totally ignored (or is covering up for) another suspect, one actually caught on the security systems entering the storage area where the anthrax used in the letters was kept, without proper authorization and AFTER being fired from his job at Fort Detrick over a racially motivated attack on an Egyptian co-worker. This suspect's name is Dr. Philip Zack, who has since relocated to Dugway Proving Grounds.
But despite this damning evidence. Zack remained untouched and untouchable, while the FBI, spurred on by Dr. Barbara Rosenberg, continued to focus on Stephen Hatfill, while trying to concoct a way for him to have created the anthrax, even though he did not work with anthrax or have access to that strain. Rosenberg and Hatfill are Jewish.
You may recall, when the FBI tore up Hatfill's house, and that of his girlfriend, then drained an entire pond hoping to find an improvised hotbox, all without producing a single piece of evidence in the case.
And now we have today's announcement, that four years into the case, the FBI cannot figure out a way for the anthrax to have been created and placed in the envelopes outside a fully equipped laboratory.
Now either the FBI is very stupid, or they are protecting the real criminal. Why? It cannot be because the letters included with the anthrax, written to appear to be from Muslims, prove a plot to frame Muslims for terror attacks on the US, because this is equally true if Hatfill is the culprit. So, given the Israeli spies uncovered in the Pentagon (and elsewhere), Zack may well be protected because to expose him would expose that Israel also has their spies deep inside our nation's biological warfare laboratories. And as the anthrax letters prove, they are not shy about taking and using those materials for their own purposes.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-09-29-anthrax_x.htm?POE=click-refer
Posted by: menenzes' ghost at November 02, 2005 12:35 PM (TVaWo)
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greg,
Where else might the stuff have come from assuming it was part of the 9-11 attack just for fun.
Posted by: Howie at November 02, 2005 01:57 PM (D3+20)
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Zack eh? Sounds like a JOOOOOOOO!!! The Vast Right Wing Neocon Zionist Chimpy McHellibacon Big Oil Consipracy needed to take down the Natonial Enquirer because the Batboy stories came dangerously close to exposing the truth!!! GLOBAL WARMING IS TERRAFORMING OUR PLANET FOR THE ALIEN BATPEOPLE!!! HALLIBURTON IS WORKING FOR THEM!!!
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 02, 2005 03:29 PM (0yYS2)
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Oh yeah speaking of global warming left leaning PBS and the Bill Gates foundation showed me last night that one volcano in the East African rift zone releases more sulphur dioxide and carbon dioxide than the entire US auto and power emissions.
Posted by: Howie at November 02, 2005 03:35 PM (D3+20)
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Greg,
I'm still waiting for an answer to my question.
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 02, 2005 05:19 PM (rUyw4)
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Howie,
Please don't think me rude, but there is absolutely no evidence that the Anthrax attack was part of the 9-11 attack. Clearly this Anthrax was American and used to frame up the A-rabs. The FBI is focusing on American suspects.
Zack was fired for orchestrating racial attacks on an Egyptian coworker at Fort Deitrick, a facility where Anthrax research is done. He was then photographed illegally entering Ft. Deitrick at night AFTER he was fired. Did he steal some Anthrax? Probably.
THE DAY BEFORE the first Anthrax letter was discovered, an anonymous letter arrived at the FBI accusing the Egyptian, that Zack had attacked, of being the Anthrax mailer. OOPS! Zack, you're a fuck up! Why don't they investigate this guy? Is it because the FBI's expert advisor, Dr. Barbara Rosenberg, a Jew, is steering the investigation away from her fellow Jew, Zack? Yes, it is.
The Anthrax attack was a psyop used to terrify Americans and villainies the A-rab.
Posted by: menenzes' ghost at November 02, 2005 05:29 PM (TVaWo)
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JJ,
No offense, but the answer is no.
Thanks anyways. If I didn't blog anonymously, I would take you up on your kind offer.
Posted by: menenzes' ghost at November 02, 2005 05:32 PM (TVaWo)
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I don't see why people equate the passing of the Iraq Liberation Act with the undertaking of this poorly planned invasion. They're obviously highly different proportions of response to the threat of iraq.
Posted by: actus at November 02, 2005 05:38 PM (CqheE)
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Why do you call the invasion of Iraq poorly planned, Actus?
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 02, 2005 05:44 PM (rUyw4)
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Greg,
All I got to say is you missed the chance for a hell of a good time. We could of sit back, drank a few, and maybe got lucky with some ladies. As long as you didn't bring up no politics, cause right now I'm real pissed at all this Leftist crap.
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 02, 2005 05:49 PM (rUyw4)
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Joe,
I have no doubt about it. I love to drink (the hard stuff though, not beer unless it's 100 degrees outside) and bullshit with my fellow Texans. I'd just throw a bunch of Rightist crap at you, because I'm a true conservative and this neo/ziocon movement is an offense to conservatism. But, I'd pick up the tab, so, heh, it all works out.
Posted by: menenzes' ghost at November 02, 2005 06:02 PM (TVaWo)
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'Why do you call the invasion of Iraq poorly planned, Actus?'
Because we failed to plan for the peace. We were told it would cost less and be over sooner than now.
Posted by: actus at November 02, 2005 07:59 PM (Zi15r)
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Well, ok, Greg, maybe sometime in the future. Who knows where a path leads? And I do like to shoot the breeze with my fellow Texans, expecially the ones who were born and raised here in Texas, with no offence meant at all to the other good people who discovered Texas later in life. But people born in Texas have a unique take on life.
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 02, 2005 08:02 PM (rUyw4)
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Well, ok, I see your point, but one would have hardly thought that a large percentage of Americans would have turned against the mission of our troops, whether they agreed with the war or not. This is the failing I see.
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 02, 2005 08:05 PM (rUyw4)
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1607426,00.html
Posted by: Route Irish at November 02, 2005 08:08 PM (Eh9tH)
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Uh, Route Irish, we don't read the Al-Guardian on the Jawa. Sorry!
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 02, 2005 08:11 PM (rUyw4)
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Greg, please delineate your political philosophy for us. List the things you believe in and support, and your favorite historical leaders, as well as everything you don't support, and your least favorite leaders, and please explain why to everything.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 02, 2005 08:18 PM (0yYS2)
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Impy,
I admire those who risked their lives in the defense of the U.S. Constitution. Today that battle is being fought on our soil.
I'm a wierd mix of Libertarian and Catholic. I'm against abortion, I'm against the death penalty, I'm against wars being brought on the American people and their pocketbooks under false pretenses, I'm for defending our country, I'm against disturbing wasp nests (DSM favorite analogy, in case you hadn't caught on), I'm for the tribe, I'm against pollution, I'm against the IRS and believe the 16th amendment was never properly ratified, I'm against paying interest on money that is created out of air by the Federal Reserve, I'm against the cozy relationship our leaders have with corporations and Israel when they ignore their constituents, I'm for small businesses, I'm against eminent domain, I'm a volunteer firefighter (today's minute men), I'm for science and education, I think religious education is best imparted by the efforts of the family not the state, I think pot should be legalized and I like puppies.
Posted by: menenzes' ghost at November 02, 2005 08:41 PM (TVaWo)
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Oh, and I think we should declare bankruptcy on our National Debt. Screw the Chinese, the Japs, the South Koreans and all the rest who own and have the American people under a yolk.
Posted by: menenzes' ghost at November 02, 2005 08:44 PM (TVaWo)
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"please explain why to everything."
maybe if you sit on his lap he'll tell you a story and explain the big, mean, bad world to you?
Posted by: sharpz at November 02, 2005 09:42 PM (kC/hG)
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http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2005/11/2/worldupdates/2005-11-02T173942Z_01_NOOTR_RTRJONC_0_-221903-1&sec=Worldupdates
Posted by: Route Irish at November 02, 2005 10:37 PM (Eh9tH)
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Dullz, If I sit on his lap he'll be missing an ear and my wallet'll be gone.
Greg, you truly sound like a soft libertarian according to your interests, though thankfully you didn't mention long walks in the rain, but the links you post and the arguments you make come off as doctrinally strict moonbat. Maybe you should spend more time articulating your position rather than just posting links to other people's stuff, or at least explaining the relevance of the link.
I actually am with you on everything but the death penalty; I say let
me pull the switch on murderers, rapists, and child molesters. I'll do it for free. And forget the switch, some cinder blocks, some chain, and a boat ride is good enough for the parasitic scum that prey on our society. You see, I'm a
hard libertarian.
So where are you on free markets, price controls, minimum wage, unions, socialized medicine, etc.?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 03, 2005 12:59 AM (0yYS2)
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Hmmm..methinks Greg speaks with forked tongue!
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 03, 2005 10:34 AM (rUyw4)
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(In my best Nelson Muntz voice): HA HA! (Not Nelson): Busted by Oyster for the troll you are, eh greg? By the way, by "neocon", do you mean that Rusty is a JOOOOOOO?
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"By the way, by "neocon", do you mean that Rusty is a JOOOOOOO?"
that is so over. Brooks tried that, and had to play it off as a joke when he was clled on it.
Posted by: actus at November 03, 2005 11:20 AM (CqheE)
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I just spent a few minutes reading the crap that greg wrote on the Yahoo group, and it's hilarious. He wrote that I'm a neocon, and that he "turned me", because I responded to Finn by stating, solely on known facts, that someone had shorted tons of stocks in WTC companies before the attack.
It's funny, I registered at sotrmfront.org and tried to engage them in debate, but they just called me a Jooooo too, and threw all the same conspiracy theories at me as greg does. As they say, everything comes out in the wash eventually, eh, herr greg?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 03, 2005 11:37 AM (0yYS2)
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Tsk Tsk Tsk greg greg.
Posted by: Howie at November 03, 2005 11:50 AM (D3+20)
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WTF are you talking about rectus? You mean "neocon" doesn't mean Joooo? So when greg uses "neocon" and "zionazi" in the same post, referring to the same people, it doesn't mean JOOOOOO? You and all your neo-nazi, (that means a Jooo hater), scum bretheren deserve to hang like the
untermenschen you are. Just as soon as you eunichs of the left get off your asses and start your precious revolution, I'm going to build a pyramid of your skulls.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 03, 2005 11:54 AM (0yYS2)
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Tsk Tsk, my ass.
Yes, everytime I get banned, I orchestrate a cyber panty raid and get a new IP address.
Check out all the trolls that answered my battle call at:
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/091656.php
Posted by: menenzes' ghost at November 03, 2005 12:11 PM (TVaWo)
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No need to get all defensive you naughty naughty boy.
Actually that's intresting about the anthrax. My personal conspiracy theory is that it is ours (or at least a strain we use) but not from here. It comes from Iraq. Now how did Iraq get it? Now it gets messy eh. I mean if Iraq did not make all those chem bio weapons they used or if they had help where would it have come from? Ok so no matter which theory is true or none the source will be embarrasing. So no answer will ever come to light. could be gregs theory is a black box plant to throw off relentless people like greg.
Awesome I love big numbers. Wait a minute that's blips I love blips more blips = more fun. Keeps us sharp too. No one to argue with we get fat and lazy.
Posted by: Howie at November 03, 2005 12:45 PM (D3+20)
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Howie:"No one to argue with we get fat and lazy."
I agree, Howie. If everyone is in agreement and preaching to the choir, it's just a circle jerk.
But your theory about the Anthrax coming from Iraq is nonsense. Sorry.
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While getting a new IP and sneaking back in with a different name isn't illegal, it certainly shows a certain level of dishonesty, immaturity and unwillingness to respect the wishes of whoever bans you. Not to mention that you seem to crave attention, even if it's negative attention. You never got past the adolescent, social behavior most of us shed at age five.
You regularly cut and paste crap totally unrelated to the thread in your quest for someone, anyone, to hear your pathetic little squeaks. Your remark about how you blog anonymously (yet, you do not reveal your URL) shows you to be a coward as well as sophomoric. If indeed you blog at all and criticize those whom you say are just looking to "pat each other on the back", then why don't you give us your URL?
Chickenshit.
Posted by: Oyster at November 03, 2005 01:51 PM (fl6E1)
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I do believe that you call them as you see them Oyster. In this case, Bingo!
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 03, 2005 03:36 PM (rUyw4)
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Non-sense? Oh well. Tim proves a domestic source is possible but sorry I don't buy your side either. Waste of time neither is provable just circumstantial. I've talked about his before it's highly unlikely that some guy was just sitting around with everything ready just waiting for an islamic attack for cover. Then just before the attack knowing in advance of course that he would have cover. He mailed the stuff from the very same city at just the right time and also knowing the 9-11 hijackers would be islamists compose notes and pull it off. Of course greg thinks that the 9-11 planes were the US attacking itself as well despite the fact that UBL and company claims them. So sorry old bud can't buy your idea either but it was interesting. Highly unlikely but interesting in a circumstantial way. Just like my idea. So I doubt it will be solved and I'm not all that intrested I'm pretty sure it was Atta not %100 certain but close enough for me until I see hard proof I'll wait and I'm sure if it comes you'll let us know right. Greg tends to pick a postion and stick with it. He was right about Menenez but he took that postion 2 seconds after the event. I took the opposite, some days you just get lucky eh greg. But a hunch is hunch we all have em some times they turn out right.
Posted by: Howie at November 03, 2005 03:44 PM (D3+20)
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"Just as soon as you eunichs of the left get off your asses and start your precious revolution, I'm going to build a pyramid of your skulls."
Don't wait on me doll. Make your own mark.
Posted by: actus at November 03, 2005 04:06 PM (CqheE)
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Oyster,
Go shuck yourself, you meterosexual vegan.
I misspoke. I should have said I comment anonymously.
What's your real name, address and phone number?
Howie,
If there was any evidence that Iraq was responsible for thhe Anthrax attacks, you can bet the case would have been made.
The technology to mill and remove static from the Anthrax spores so that they can readily dispurse is confined to U.S. labs. Trust me on that. That's why the FBI is focusing on an American source.
Posted by: menenzes' ghost at November 03, 2005 05:14 PM (TVaWo)
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Okay rectus, let's meet. I hope you're skin is as pasty and soft as most other leftard eunichs, I need good parchment for the grimoir I'm making. MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Seriously, you chickenshit libtards are all big men on the other side of that keyboard, or in packs when you protest outside of shopping malls, but I can't wait to get one of you in the abattoir and listen to you squeal like a pig while I peel you.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 03, 2005 08:28 PM (0yYS2)
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"Seriously, you chickenshit libtards are all big men on the other side of that keyboard, or in packs when you protest outside of shopping malls, but I can't wait to get one of you in the abattoir and listen to you squeal like a pig while I peel you."
So serious its got to be said on the internet!
Posted by: actus at November 04, 2005 12:00 PM (Zi15r)
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http://www.kadoko.com/wwwboard/messages/9412.html enduredprincessteenage
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We're From the Government, We're Here to Help

Liberals have put their faith in these Senators. Do you trust them to do what's in your best interests?
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Go a
head, Harry -- let's see you juggle those yo-yos!
Posted by: McGehee at November 02, 2005 11:35 AM (lAOTn)
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Absolutely, but only if
they are allowed to define what my best interests are.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at November 02, 2005 11:40 AM (RHG+K)
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That's a scary picture. It could be the poster for every cheesy,low budget sci fi picture ever made about a repressive government of 100 years in the future.
Posted by: Graeme at November 02, 2005 11:47 AM (zzwVE)
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Did a female photographer take that pic?
Cause I think Durbin is trying to look down her shirt.
Posted by: Oxen at November 02, 2005 12:03 PM (w9vWW)
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This guy Reid is a snarler. The expression on his face is just like his expression in the last of the photos in my
photo-comic strip about the Dems and Harriet Miers a couple of weeks ago. Gives me the creeps frankly.
Posted by: Attila (Pillage Idiot) at November 02, 2005 12:47 PM (ZAnEO)
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Dang, its like they took off their masks.
Posted by: Jane at November 02, 2005 12:55 PM (6krEN)
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Is it just me, or would that make a great cover photo for an old Sun Records album?
Posted by: Russ from Winterset at November 02, 2005 02:29 PM (M7kiy)
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That photo would make an excellent "caption contest."
Posted by: dave at November 02, 2005 02:31 PM (CcXvt)
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Reid looks a fundamentalist preacher who gets caught molesting little boys. Durbin looks like he's trying to audition for "The Sopranos" and overdoing it. I have no idea who Shumer is looking at.
Posted by: Scott in CA at November 02, 2005 02:40 PM (FG3oN)
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The thre nasties are alive and well and wanting to control ourlives
Posted by: sandpiper at November 02, 2005 03:08 PM (XLUG2)
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I like the angle of the photo. Kind of like one of those rennaisance paintings where the sainted have halos. This would have been better had they been horns instead.
Posted by: Vonski at November 02, 2005 03:15 PM (Srmrz)
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"By invoking Rule 21 to
demand further investigations into prewar intel, we've got the GOP them exactly where they want us, and now it's time to twist."
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 02, 2005 03:33 PM (0yYS2)
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Someone said today that Reid looks like a mortician. He does look like he wants to sell us an overpriced coffin.
Posted by: Oyster at November 02, 2005 06:25 PM (YudAC)
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Did someone say caption contest?!
1) Reid: And I've got the biggest balls of all...
2) Schumer: Goddamnit. I wanted to be in front of the mike
3) Schumer: Actually, on further thought, I'm glad Reid's out front. That way no one can ask me about Steele and those SSNs I had the folks at the DSCC run.
4) Durbin: Ah, you've caught my suave yet demure side. Kudos to you photographer!
5) Watch out Backstreet Boys, here come the Backbench Boyz!
Posted by: lawhawk at November 02, 2005 09:57 PM (TO4xE)
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dang, and they have the matching ties and everythink.
Posted by: Jane at November 02, 2005 10:13 PM (6krEN)
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Love the photo
PTL! Can I get an Amen!
Posted by: hondo at November 03, 2005 02:02 AM (ymtSt)
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Notice the backdrop placed carefully around his head. The whole scene looks like a stained glass window in a church.
Posted by: Oyster at November 03, 2005 09:48 AM (fl6E1)
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Good call Oyster. As a photographer, I know how to use perspectives to tell the story, and this photographer, though perhaps not politically motivated, clearly saw the best shot, and got a damn good one, speaking strictly on technical terms. I think this shot of the
Three Vendejo's is very telling in regard to their true natures; they look like Disney villains plotting dastardly deeds, which is ironic, because that's about the level of their relevance in real life.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 03, 2005 11:03 AM (0yYS2)
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Oyster, IM: You give them to much credit. They're not that smart.
Posted by: Greyrooster at November 03, 2005 01:32 PM (ZaAd/)
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Greyrooster,
Where you been? Again?
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 03, 2005 03:43 PM (rUyw4)
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Yeah, yer right Rooster, Disney villains are waaaaaay ahead of these idiots.
Sigh. It's not very funny though, considering that they're actively trying to undermine the country during a war. They should all be hanged by the neck until dead, then left for the crows.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 03, 2005 08:30 PM (0yYS2)
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Liberty on the Network.
Carnival of Liberty XVIII is up at
fpffressminds
Also today the house votes on internet speech.
NY Post: After all, when it comes to the Internet, money hardly translates into influence. Plenty of expensively produced Web sites are flops, while some of the most popular Web sites and blogs cost virtually nothing to run. The real problem, it seems, is that the speech police don't like any speech that they don't get to . . . well, police
Hat Tip: Instapundit.
It seems to me that this should be the number one discussion on the blogs today. But thatÂ’s just me.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/02/AR2005110200589.html
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Wearing Blinders in the Fast Lane
Yeah, that's just what the Democratic Party needed: an isomorphic (one to one) correspondence between the party and the nightmarish conspiracy theories of the Chomsky/Moveon Left about how Bushitlerburton conspired to lead us into war for the sake of all this deucedly cheap oil we're getting. This, while managing to completely ignore the cynical trading of oil for food by some of the most prominent members of the "international establishment," that not only kept Iraqis starving and oppressed, but gave Saddam access to the Sears Build-Your-Own-WMD-Arsenal catalogue, should he like... ever get the itch. (Which we know he wouldn't because Joe Wilson says so... most of the time.)
Now just how is a reasonable person supposed to be unoffended by this obvious, and foolishly self-destructive, clamor for attention? On one side you've got the nomination of a brilliant and qualified conservative to the Supreme Court (who Michael Barone thinks won't be seriously opposed), the launch of a campaign to make ready for the next Influenza Pandemic (a move that Moveon criticized Bush for not having made earlier), a UN investigation of Syrian thuggery exposing a political assassination in Lebanon, and findings that will lead to indictments against prominent members of the "peace movement" who got rich acting as Saddamite conduits. On the other side the Gang That Can't Shoot Straight claims that these are all distractions, and that even though nearly everyone on the planet was certain Saddam was seeking WMD the whole thing was somehow a clever deception arranged by the Bush Administration. Yeah, that's a winner. Keep it up. We really need to vote you guys back into office.
Never saw that one coming...
(Cross-posted by Demosophist to Demosophia)
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They're spoiling for a fight, and I think we ought to give them a hell of a lot more than what they bargained for. The hard left has taken over the Democratic Party and the Republicans need to be telling the entire nation just that. They are nothing more than a bunch of traitors who are giving aid and comfort to our enemies. I've had it with them!
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 02, 2005 10:31 AM (rUyw4)
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Actually its not about WMDs or Iraq. Like the old saying -all politics are local. This is about the Culture War (abortion, gay rights, affirmative action etc etc etc) whose in charge etc. The Iraq thing is just the backdrop to be played off (they would go either way depending who was in office). If conservatives say tomato - the lib/left says tomatoe. Get use to it. Once you realize that an argument with a lib over WMDs is really about some other cloked social issue .. then you will understand.
The libs hate Rove because he understands that and knows how to deal with it. (Why else would they be so hot about a single Presidential advisor!)
The last election wasn't about WMDS or Iraq - it was about culture. In an ideal situation without the polarization,
Bush could have easily lost the election because of Iraq etc. Many conservatives have quietly keep their "reservations" private - and I belief quite a few here understand what I mean (say no more).
Posted by: hondo at November 02, 2005 03:01 PM (ymtSt)
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The libtards hate everyone who doesn't subscribe to their conspiracy du jour, be it Skull and Bones, the Masons, Area 51, Jooooish world domination, genetic engineering, et cetera ad nauseum.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 02, 2005 03:44 PM (0yYS2)
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"...and that even though nearly everyone on the planet was certain Saddam was seeking WMD..." Really? "Nearly everyone"? Exactly what does that mean and how'd you get that info? It's all the same, left, right, center, whatever...all a bunch of kooks.
Posted by: bailey at November 06, 2005 05:00 AM (Hjg8a)
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Lesbians Want to Marry Angelina Jolie

Fresh on the heels of being named the woman 57% of college girls want to have sex with (
story here), Angelina Jolie has another 'good gay' related title: world's most desirable gay-marriage partner.
The Sun:
ANGELINA JOLIE is the woman lesbians would most like to marry, according to a new poll by Gaydar Radio.
The bisexual stunner beat fellow actresses Charlize Theron and Jodie Foster to the top spot with 32 per cent of the vote.
You
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Rusty? That's news?
Hell, I wanna marry the crazy tramp too.
I'd give her the best 9.2 seconds of her life.
Posted by: dick at November 02, 2005 09:21 AM (XlQVK)
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9.2? Does that include undressing time?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 02, 2005 09:36 AM (0yYS2)
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I'll probably take some heat for this, but in my opinion, Angelina has become a bit cliche. The whole 'crazy freak' thing is played out. Plus her once beautiful lips now seem to resemble two dehydrated sea cumbers. In fact, given the choice, I'd prefer either Charlize Theron or Jodie Foster. I guess I'm just boring that way.
Posted by: Graeme at November 02, 2005 10:12 AM (zzwVE)
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I'd still bet that those would be the two dehydrated sea cucumbers that most men would like wrapped around... uh never mind.
In a related story, 100% of straight men would like to tag Angie. Yeah, she's a skank but she's my kind of skank: the kind who would kill you and devour your body for nourishment after using you for your seed.
Posted by: slug at November 02, 2005 12:59 PM (aQTEb)
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Aaaaahhhh - the need to tittilate! Push that social envelope further and further. Why? Who cares - its all about self-gratification anyway.
But in the era of DVDs VCRS and the Internet - Jolie - who cares about tittilation when you can easily get the real Mc Coy!
Jolie (and all the others)- fame is fleeting and yours is fading fast. So, get with the program (like Paris) - make some porn films and sell them. Don't tease - Show us the money!
Posted by: hondo at November 02, 2005 02:14 PM (ymtSt)
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Hondo, it looks like you'll be pleased by
Original Sin, Angelina's upcoming movie with Antonio Banderas.
Here's a link to a
clip. It takes a while to upload, but you'll have your money shot.
Posted by: utron at November 02, 2005 03:12 PM (LCjIL)
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This just in. A new poll finds that 78% of men chose Angelina Jolie as the woman they would most like to watch college girls have sex with. ;-)
Posted by: Gary at November 02, 2005 03:19 PM (PLHs9)
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SOFTCORE!!!!!
JOLIE!!! STOP BEING SO "RISQUE" - THERE'S NOTHING LEFT TO PROVE!
SHOW ME THE MONEY HONEY!
Posted by: hondo at November 02, 2005 03:21 PM (ymtSt)
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Hey that's nto safe for work now you tell me. Good eye candy though.
Posted by: Howie at November 02, 2005 04:38 PM (D3+20)
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Oh well. Weird or not. I would still like to nail her. I have more in common with lesbians than I do with the french. I prefer women.
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Today in Yemen: Death Threats
Communiqué about the Death Threat Received by Mr. Mohammed Qahtan Head of the Political Bureau of the Yemeni Congregation for Reform (Islah):
The Yemeni Forum for Change (YFC), which is a private, not for profit, and non-partisan organization focusing on issues related to democratic change and human rights in Yemen, is very concerned about the death threat received by Mr. Mohammed Qahtan, Head of the Political Bureau of the Yemeni Congregation for Reform (a.k.a, Islah) which is the biggest opposition party in Yemen. Qahtan, who is one of the most vocal critics of government, has received a two-page letter containing a death threat and delivered to the doorstep of his house in the early morning of Tuesday Nov. 1. 2005.
The YFC strongly condemns this type of terror against a Yemeni politician exercising his rights within constitutional and legal limits, and it calls on domestic and international legal and human rights organizations to denounce such a heinous act.
The death threat to Mr. Qahtan comes at a time in which the Yemeni government has escalated its harassment, intimidation, and in some instances beatings of Yemeni journalists, opposition and independent politicians. The government harassment has extended to include the head of the YFC, Dr. Abdullah Al-faqih, whose countryside relatives in Ibb governorate have been subjected at beginning of the month of Ramadan to harassing calls from officers in the Political Security Organization (PSO) which is an extra constitutional institution answerable only to president Saleh. This occurred shortly after the YFC held a symposium to discuss political reforms in Yemen.
In light of current circumstances in Yemen and as a response to deteriorating political and economic conditions, the YFC calls on intellectuals, journalists, and social figures inside and outside Yemen to increase pressure on the Yemeni government to do the following:
1. Protect its citizens and hold those responsible for these terrorizing acts accountable in front of the law; failing to do so will only implicate government officials in the conspiracy to terrorize journalists and activists.
2. Cease all types of harassment, intimidation, and terrorizing acts directed against opposition figures, journalists and activists.
3. Positively and unconditionally respond to calls for national dialogue that includes all relevant political forces and address immediate political and economic challenges facing the country.
4. Work with other forces in society to build a democratic culture which enables Yemenis to peacefully work their political differences.
5. Take urgent steps to combat corruption which has become the number one obstacle to political and economic development in Yemen.
Sana'a, Republic of Yemen. November 2, 2005
For queries in Arabic, please call 967-711000226
For queries in English, please call 967-711909057
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Just more of the same. The Europeans should be able to help here, but they don't want to risk angering the government. The US has its hands full, already, and the Yemen thugs know this. It's tough, Jane.
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 02, 2005 10:26 AM (rUyw4)
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You know what gets me is the reformers in Yemen who refuse to be intimidated into silence even though they know they have no international back-up. All Im trying to do is give them a little PR. Because they deserve it. They're fighting for democracy completely on their own.
Posted by: Jane at November 02, 2005 10:31 AM (ywZa8)
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May well be hopeless Jane. Its very very difficult to reform a nation that has absolutely no history as a nation in the first place.
The reformers have an added problem. They are composed of almost entirely of expats and foreign educated. In a cloistered tribal society like Yemen that makes you a neo-foreigner - an outsider.
Posted by: hondo at November 02, 2005 12:53 PM (ymtSt)
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Hello Jane,
I have been handed your
articles and urls from
many friends and
relatives.
You are coming across as
an Umamia/Internationalist of
the first class
and an advocate of the
Yemeni struggle for
democracy. I am sure you
already have earned your
place in the heart of
Yemeni people as a
friend and
Mujahida in their cause.
I had known Brother
Mohamad bin Mohamad
Qahtan as a student of
his in Muad bin Jabal in mid 70's.His
teachings and
attitude proves to
anyone that comes
in contact with him
how loving and caring
this man about the orphans,
the poor, and helpless.
al-Qahtani is one of the
finest men I know that
Yemen has given birth to.
Should anything happen
to al-Ustad Mohamad
bin Mohamad Qhatan
outside Allah's
mercy and fate, the
Yemeni government,
its foreign accomplice regimes,
the Yemeni political security and
military,tribal leaders,
and their militia juntas
must be held fully
responsible before the
Yemeni people and Allah
the Greatest of All.
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hondo:
A) Thanks for the feedback guys. Its rare I get anyoneto talk to me about yemen.
B) To Quote Tug McGraw, "Ya Gotta Believe."
C) The dissatifaction is widespread. The recent riots that exploded through all the governates are one example. But there has to be a better connection between the disenfranchised masses and the intellectuals, which is hard to do when the govt controls the mass media.
D) Even with short odds, democracy can win. I didnt say it would be easy. Im saying its better for everybody and possible.
Hi Jack, a democracy mujahadia? OK. You are right if anything happens to Qhatan, there will be an outcry, including here in the US.
Posted by: Jane at November 02, 2005 02:59 PM (6krEN)
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Jane
Understand the sentiments - a worthy cause - I wish you well ...
but - Jawa is not a good board for the dialog and feedback your looking for. Mostly lite quick conservative comments as opposed to significant depth. A little humor (bad taste OK), ranting (good for the soul) - stuff like that.
Great, enjoyable and fun if you keep it in perspective.
Posted by: hondo at November 02, 2005 03:17 PM (ymtSt)
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hondo, the discussion is a perk i wasnt expecting and i appreciate. you're right i dont fit well here at the moment, and i think rusty knows me well enough after two years to know what im about. the yemeni regime is allergic to publicity. so when theres a death threat, im posting it. it can make a difference, it has in the past. rusty, dean and the commissar gave me open priviledges because sometimes theres an emergency. im only planning on posting maybe once a week. im not going to kill everybody with the details. but the yemeni regime is very funny actually, like when they said they had to raise the internet costs because censorship is so expensive. so maybe little by little, the view will change from this absurd label of a reforming democracy to something more accurate, like a brutal oligarchy. but im not moving off topic. ill practice snarky. i used to be good at that.
Posted by: Jane at November 02, 2005 08:49 PM (6krEN)
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Stop corruption, intimidation, harassment in a muslim country????? DREAM ON. Allah, the greatest of them all. Who is all. The muslims? Doesn't take much to be greater than those retarded idiots.
Posted by: Greyrooster at November 03, 2005 04:05 PM (ZaAd/)
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Death threat against an opposition member, nothing new for over there. And against an Islah party member, paybacks for the past. Yes, the Islah party is trying to gain more political clout and turn out the GPC, but all one has to do is look at who is in charge of the Islah party and how it was formed to know they are to be trusted no more than the GPC.
Weapons smuggling stopped, not quiet. Watched many a smuggling caravans drive past the army guards on their way to Saudi across the Empty Quarter. Army can't stop them cause they only control the ground they are standing on at the moment and they dare not make the surrounding tribes angry.
Jane keep up the good work on reporting on what goes on over there. It can be unbelievable at times
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tnx, and unbelievable is right.
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November 01, 2005
Hell Freezes Over: 50 Cent Defends Bush
From
ContactMusic.com via
The Drudge Report:
The IN DA CLUB star believes human intervention could not have prevented the effects of the hurricane, which killed over a thousand people in the US gulf states in August (05), and sees no point in reprimanding the President for something which was beyond his control.
He says, "The New Orleans disaster was meant to happen. It was an act of God.
"I think people responded to it the best way they can.
"What KANYE WEST was saying, I don't know where that came from."
A rap star speaking up for a Republican President? Is this a sign of the Apocalypse?
I still say Canadian Lorne Greene (Bonanza's Ben Cartwright) started rap with his release of "Ringo" (the number 21 hit of 1964). And Canada should be held to account for this.
Also posted at The Dread Pundit Bluto.
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It was a act of god its gods wrath against New Orleans for shutting down christain churches and opening X rated theaters adult related buisnesses and ignoring families
Posted by: sandpiper at November 01, 2005 08:29 PM (9NBAS)
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I think I'm gonna faint.
Posted by: thirdee at November 01, 2005 08:42 PM (Q8K/D)
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sandpiper- I think you need to take out of the sand, piper. You're one of those loonies that give the rest of us Christians as well as the whole right-wing a bad name.
Word to the wise. Okay five words.
TURN-OFF-THE-700-CLUB
Posted by: Aaron Brazell at November 01, 2005 09:05 PM (a7rDq)
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Can you tell who has a movie out? Kanye or 4 bits?
Posted by: MKL at November 01, 2005 09:06 PM (cKX2r)
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Fo shizzle, my nizzle
...or something else that doesn't make any sense!
Posted by: dave at November 01, 2005 10:00 PM (CcXvt)
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Whoa - who deleted DSM ..
I had a parting gift for him
Ha Ha - DSM - wish it were true. I can just see you now -lost in the jungle with a copy of Mother Earth News, a Greenpeace button on your LL Bean peasant shirt, and a map upside down.
Then kidnapped by the local Peoples Bandit Army ..
sitting around the campfire with a dozen of sweaty hairy revolutionaries ..
explaining to them that you are really with them - viva la Revolution ..
while in the background someone tunes up a guitar to the tune of "Deliverance"
Posted by: hondo at November 01, 2005 10:04 PM (ymtSt)
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DSM doesn't meet my minimum standards for commenting.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at November 01, 2005 11:44 PM (RHG+K)
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A biznezman does and says anything for money. Lot of poor black people get hurt => hire a "gangsta" to say it ain't Bushwacks fault, coz me an' mah homies think it Gods biznez.
Random reader: Didn't we already get rid of this guy?
My answer: Nah, I had a vacation and now since I'm back to school I'm bored as ever. So random appearances expected...
Posted by: A Finn at November 02, 2005 04:32 AM (cWMi4)
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What happened in N.O. was an act of nature - not an act of God, since that would imply that people somehow deserve events like Hurricane Katrina.
If it turns out that 50 cent is really a closet Republican, then the ads for the '08 elections will propbably be alot more interesting.
Posted by: Graeme at November 02, 2005 05:37 AM (zzwVE)
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If it was an act of God, does that imply that God lacks the ability to specifically target only the evildoers? Or maybe he doesn't care about making innocents suffer? Or maybe he gets off on random mass murder, mayhem, and suffering?
Or maybe, just maybe, it was just a common weather phenomenon, totally unrelated to any human actions such as pole-dancing or SUV's? Naaahhhh...
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 02, 2005 09:44 AM (0yYS2)
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I love my 50. I have a whole theory that most rappers would be Republicans if they knew the difference between the parties beyond 'all the cool people I know are Democrats'.
Posted by: Karol at November 02, 2005 10:36 AM (qmnPJ)
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I can't stand 50 cents? I think, and I'm with IM on the weather phenomena. Hurricanes have been known to occur in the Gulf of Mexico between June 1 and November 1. As far back as human memory goes.
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 02, 2005 03:43 PM (rUyw4)
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What happened in N.O. was an act of nature - not an act of God, since that would imply that people somehow deserve events like Hurricane Katrina.
If it turns out that 50 cent is really a closet Republican, then the ads for the '08 elections will propbably be alot more interesting.
I'm pretty sure that is what was meant. Some insurance contracts will even mention "act of God" for any natural phenomina that is not specifically defined in the contract. Many people, including myself will say "act of God" as a casual term not actually meaning we believe God was responsible for something.
As to 50cent himself. I'm not so sure he's actually a supporter of GW but instead just speaking some common sense. That alone is a shock.
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Russian Prez Putin Won't Run for Third Term
(Moscow)
I guess it's time to try and figure out which ex-communist will be allowed to take President Putin's place.
From The Moscow Times:
President Vladimir Putin said Monday that he would not seek a third term in 2008, but vowed not to allow "destabilization" in Russia following the vote, leaving the door open for drastic action in the event of a crisis.
In an interview with Dutch media on the eve of a visit to the International Criminal Court in The Hague, Netherlands, Putin reiterated that he opposed changing the Constitution to prolong his time in power -- a possibility that has been widely discussed because of his popularity and control of the parliament.
But Putin said that the 2008 presidential election would be a "serious, difficult test for Russia" and stressed that full power and responsibility for the fate of the country would remain in his hands until the new president has been sworn in.
It seems to me that he is keeping a trump card. If Putin doesn't like the way Russia is being run, he takes "drastic action" to straighten things out. This is probably because of the fact that Russia has little experience with the peaceful transfer of power. Historically, someone customarily had to die or have been murdered.
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Two dictators gone in a single year!
First ChimpMcBushHilter, followed by Rasputin , the Democrats heads are spinning.
Posted by: dave at November 01, 2005 04:14 PM (CcXvt)
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Weird comment - whats it like to live in a perpetual hallucinagenic state? - do you see colors? - Oh! Sorry - red red red blue red red red blue red red red red etc.
Posted by: hondo at November 01, 2005 04:43 PM (ymtSt)
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Dude, whatever you've been eating, smoking, shooting, or snortnig, you've either done too much or not enough.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 01, 2005 05:13 PM (0yYS2)
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Greg, how many times you going to spin and take out of context the same 'dictatorship' comment.
I'm sure you've never said anything imperfectly in your life, we are then expected to assume?
Posted by: dave at November 01, 2005 06:30 PM (CcXvt)
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No Dave,
'cause when you assume, you make an ass + u + me.
And you're going to pan this off on an imperfection? An imperfection is saying "strategery". Saying you wish you were a dictator is a fatal flaw, not an imperfection.
Posted by: menenzes' ghost at November 01, 2005 06:38 PM (TVaWo)
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I think it is obvious to just about everyone reading the statement you provided, President Bush he is saying "as long as I am the one in charge"
Taken completely out of context.
Posted by: dave at November 01, 2005 06:44 PM (CcXvt)
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Greg, why don't drop the idiotic cut & paste crap? Do you actually think that anyone here is as stupid as you are, and take that shit seriously? Do you think you're going to change anyone's mind? How big a fucking idiot are you?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 01, 2005 06:51 PM (0yYS2)
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Pulease Dave,
The quote is, "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."
He didn't say, "as long as I am the one in charge" . Stop making stuff up.
Posted by: menenzes' ghost at November 01, 2005 06:51 PM (TVaWo)
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You're an idiot, Impy. Now, run along.
Posted by: menenzes' ghost at November 01, 2005 06:53 PM (TVaWo)
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Greg, fuck you, you stupid, dickless little liberal asswipe. If you were a man, you'd find a better way to spend your time, but as it is, do come here to waste ours, when you're not jerking off to kiddie porn. I hope to meet you one day, you cocksucking little troll.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 01, 2005 07:10 PM (0yYS2)
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You're projecting Impy. You're projecting about one inch.
Posted by: menenzes' ghost at November 01, 2005 07:21 PM (TVaWo)
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IM,
Actually, I think I live pretty close to the little punk. I'm staying in Abilene this week, but my dad's family is from Kerrville, and I'll be down there next month for Christmas. I think he lives in Austin, and I'll be going right through there, so maybe he and I can meet for a beer. How about it, Greg, you want to meet for a cold one?
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 01, 2005 07:28 PM (rUyw4)
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"
If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."
when you dissect my comments, and ignore the obvious, it only points to an agenda greg.
Posted by: dave at November 01, 2005 07:39 PM (CcXvt)
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No third term for putrid putin unlike the favorite commie of all the hollywood liberals GORBECHEV
Posted by: sandpiper at November 01, 2005 08:32 PM (9NBAS)
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http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=3266
Posted by: Route Irish at November 02, 2005 12:23 AM (Eh9tH)
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Route Irish: GET YOUR OWN BLOG!!!
You too, Greg and DSM.
All three together don't have enough intellect to pose any real challenge. What's their life dream? To see how many people they CAN'T pull over to their side?
Posted by: Oyster at November 02, 2005 03:18 AM (YudAC)
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Old news, he's been saying that for 3 years now.
Posted by: A Finn at November 02, 2005 04:34 AM (cWMi4)
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Joe, if you do meet with him, send me a memento. An ear'll do.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 02, 2005 09:46 AM (0yYS2)
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Hell, he won't answer me!
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 02, 2005 10:20 AM (rUyw4)
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Of course not, he won't compromise himself by leavnig the safety of his mom's basement.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 02, 2005 03:55 PM (0yYS2)
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Die, be murdered, or be pickled. Remember Yeltsen.
Posted by: BWS at November 03, 2005 04:52 PM (WIFkt)
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And in the "God has a sense of irony" category...
Puerto Princesa, Nov. 1 (UPI) — Environmental group Greenpeace was fined for damaging the Tubbataha Reef Marine Park near Palawan Island in the Philippines when its ship hit the coral reef.
Greenpeace blamed outdated maps from the Philippine government that indicated the 400-mile World Heritage coral reef site was more than a mile away when its flagship Rainbow Warrior II hit it, the BBC reported.
You'd think that if they were so concerned about the environement, they might actually take the time to make sure their charts are updated. You know, when you get that map that says "circa 1940" on it, it's probably not quite as accurate as when it was made. But I suppose that I'm actually expecting Greenpeacers to be able to read. That may be holding the standards too high.
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You've set the standard way too high for tree huggers!
Posted by: Rod Stanton at November 01, 2005 11:03 AM (R3FcZ)
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The freedoms, which we in the civilized world enjoy, can always be twisted into a rope with which one may be hanged by one's own hand. Liberals excell at ropemaking.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 01, 2005 11:15 AM (0yYS2)
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Typical libs. Never take responsibility for ones actions. Always blame others. Somehow it is the fault of Hitler Bush and Haliburton. Maybe Scooter. Will have to wait and see.
Posted by: Filthy Allah at November 01, 2005 12:19 PM (5ceWd)
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"Chinese Defense Minister Gives Speech About WAR plans against the United States"
Says China can only afford to wait another 5 to 10 years before being forced to attack to gain "living space"
http://www.halturnershow.com/ChineseDefenseMinisterTalksWarAgainstUS.html
Posted by: menenzes' ghost at November 01, 2005 12:46 PM (TVaWo)
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Shoot!
The Empress and myself just cancled plans to visit Palawan this winter. I could have took some snapshots! Who knows, maybe we will be able to find the time to sneak away.
Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at November 01, 2005 01:00 PM (IDlAL)
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Interesting. I seem to recall another totalitarian government that demanded "Living Room".
Posted by: Brian B at November 01, 2005 01:09 PM (rGfpg)
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Havn't they heard of a depth-sounder? Even a fish-finder from Bass ProShops should work. Or right, "Fish are our Friends, don't eat Fish" - or is that a PETA talking-point?
Posted by: -keith in mtn. view at November 01, 2005 01:35 PM (Lq/X7)
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According to the article:
"the reef appeared to be healthy, with no evidence of bleaching which is believed to be caused by warmer sea temperatures"
Hmmmmm looks like this global warming thing is good for something after all. This could be the start of a new bumper sticker campaign: I own two Hummers to save the reefs!
Posted by: Graeme at November 01, 2005 03:04 PM (HO4a7)
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Palawan is a beautiful place; hope to visit there again someday.
Posted by: Tim at November 01, 2005 03:20 PM (JMRqn)
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This is just funny. I see it all the time. The libs are retarded, and always try to put the blame for their retard behaviour on someone else.
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 01, 2005 04:02 PM (rUyw4)
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pity that their boat didnt hit an old WWII torpedeo sticking out of the coral...THAT would have been real poetic justice
Posted by: THANOS35 at November 01, 2005 06:20 PM (ui4Ev)
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The AAP press release states that they had the latest charts onboard, published by the Philippine government in august 2005, and they also had the Tubbataha Marine Park Manager onboard guiding them.
Dosen't say much for the accuracy of the charts.
Posted by: robert at November 01, 2005 06:25 PM (HHS19)
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If the enviro-trash had just learned to bass fish, they would have known about the lowly fish finder sold at sporting goods stores across America. That would have alerted them to the reef. Dang redneck bass fishermen are just too darn smart!
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 01, 2005 07:50 PM (rUyw4)
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damn two faced enviromenatl hypotcrits they yammer all this crap about global warming then they go out a wreck a coral reef what kind of two faced crap is this? SCREW GENPEACE,SCREW GREENPEACE,SCREW GREEPEACE and just how many fishies did they grind up while they were doing this? rotten eco-freaks two faced wackos
Posted by: sandpiper at November 01, 2005 09:12 PM (9NBAS)
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"when in danger or in doubt, always post a good lookout" "when there is no room for her to turn, back her,slow her full astern"
Posted by: john Ryan at November 01, 2005 09:30 PM (ads7K)
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Being a Lib means you never have to say you're sorry as long as you had "good intentions".
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at November 01, 2005 11:55 PM (8e/V4)
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SAVE THE SEALS!!!
CLUB LIBERALS INSTEAD!!!
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 02, 2005 09:47 AM (0yYS2)
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CAPTIAN CAPTIAN THE GREENPEACE SHIP RAINBOW WARRIOR IS IN SIGHT SHALL WE LOAD TORPEDO TUBES 1 AND 2?
Posted by: sandpiper at November 02, 2005 08:11 PM (ba9dN)
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New Ways to Screw You
President Bush's tax panel has released new proposals for changes to the tax code. So far, I'm not seeing anything to get excited about. Of course they've found new ways to screw the wealthy, because we all know that it's their "duty" to give everything they worked to earn back to the people who like to sit around, watch soaps and spit out babies.
Some of the proposed changes would include:
Eliminate the alternative minimum tax
The AMT is a parallel tax system originally intended to ensure the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes by eliminating many of the deductions and credits they get under the regular income tax system.
But because the income-exemption levels have never been indexed to inflation, by 2010 the AMT threatens to catch more than 30 million taxpayers, mostly from middle-income households. The estimated cost of repealing the AMT is $1.3 trillion over 10 years.
The panel was instructed to come up with proposals that are revenue-neutral, meaning they would have to produce the same revenue as expected under the current system. As a result, the panel had to take a hard look at the tax breaks offered under the current system to see where they could make up for that lost revenue, while at the same time ensuring a new tax code was fairer and more growth oriented than the current one.
So, basically, they are simply moving this tax upward in the pay scale. So once again, if you make more, they're going to take more away.
Alter homeowners' tax breaks
The panel recommended lowering the mortgage interest cap, which is the amount of a loan on which home owners would receive a tax break for interest paid, from $1 million to the average regional housing price in the range of $227,000 to $412.000.
The deduction would be converted to a credit equal to 15 percent of interest paid on mortgages up to the interest cap. A credit is a dollar-for-dollar reduction of the taxes you owe, while a deduction only reduces your taxable income by a percentage equal to your top tax rate.
Generally speaking, the higher your mortgage loan and the higher your tax bracket, the more likely it is that you'll see less of a tax break than you would under the current system.
And once again a Socialist's dream. Tax you on your mortgage based on how much you pay and how much you make.
Reduce the marriage penalty
All tax brackets, family credits and taxation of Social Security benefits for couples would be double those of individuals. Under the current system, some married couples filing jointly end up paying more in taxes than single taxpayers with the same income because of the way various deductions, creidts and tax brackets are structured.
Now this I can get behind. But why stop there? Why not eliminate the marriage penalty altogether? If it's wrong, it's wrong. It's not just a little bit wrong, in a certain bracket.
Reduce tax breaks on employer-provided health insurance
When you work for a company, your employer typically foots a large portion of your health-insurance premiums. That money, which is not reported on your W2, is tax-free to you.
The panel recommended capping the amount of tax-free money that may be used to pay for health insurance to $5,000 for single coverage or $11,500 for family coverage.
Now hold on just a minute there, hoss. Maybe I'm misunderstanding that, but are you talking about taxing me for money that my employer pays for my health care? Or are you just talking about taxing my employer for the good thing that he's trying to do for me and my family? Either way it's a crappy deal. Kentucky politicians have already managed to make health insurance in Kentucky so high and so complicated that nearly no one will carry it. If you now start taxing the money we use to buy it, you're going to totally screw us out of health care. Small companies like the one I work for will simply not be able to afford to pay it anymore, so I'll end up losing what little I've got. How exactly again does that qualify as taking care of your constituitients? Oh, I get it now. When you do this, I'll go broke trying to pay for healthcare, and I'll be forced out of my job because my employer is broke too. Then I can take advantage of your wonderful welfare system that you've set up with the money you just stole from me and my employer! Oh wow! I can't wait!
Repeal the federal deduction of the state and local tax deductions
Under the proposals, taxpayers would no longer be allowed to deduct the state and local taxes they pay on wage income, investment income, and property.
Former Senator John Breaux of Louisiana, who is the panel's vice chair, on CNBC Tuesday morning explained part of the panel's reasoning this way: "If people in California want to pay extra taxes to have their trash picked up, people in Texas shouldn't have to subsidize it."
That's right, just because your state and local governments take your money doesn't mean you don't still owe it to the federal government. After all, they've got to have their piece of the pie too.
Reduce the number of tax brackets
Under the panel's first proposal, which is a streamlined version of the current income tax, the number of tax brackets would be reduced from 6 to 4. They would be: 15%, 25%, 30% and 33%.
Under their second proposal, which combines the income tax with a progressive consumption tax, there would be only three tax brackets: 15%, 25% and 30%.
In the long run, this would probably end up screwing me. But I'd certainly like to see more on this than the proposed percentages that they want to steal from me. Where are they planning on dividing these brackets? Will most of America fall into that 25% bracket? If that's the case, then my taxes are going to go up quite a bit.
So basically, what I'm reading is that you can kiss those nice little tax breaks that Bush gave you last term goodbye. Then you can prepare yourself to bend over and take it. Because everything I'm seeing here looks like a bunch of liberal appeasement programs planned to give the goverment plenty of pork to work with.
When are the American people going to say that we've been screwed enough? When are we going to realize that the current welfare system is a sham? When are we going to demand that our "leaders" get their spending under control and stop stealing our hard earned money? I say the time is now. If we don't get this situation under control immediately, than it is going to get much worse much faster. Conservatives were able to rally together and stop the nomination of Harriet Miers, why can't we rally together and start demanding that our elected officials begin acting like the conservatives they ran as? These proposals haven't been passed into law yet. It's not to late to change them. Write your congressman. Start lobbying. Take control.
Quotes in this article courtesy CNN
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I'm so sick of the "they make more they can pay more" mentallity. People who make more work for their money. Why do we have to pay for Little Miss Trailer Trash to have more kids? Arg that pisses me off. Can they stop worrying about getting more in taxes from us and figure out how to stop giving so damn much away?!
Posted by: Impatient Girl at November 01, 2005 11:11 AM (ftixA)
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I'd prefer the VAT (Value Added Tax) system, it seemed to work well for me in the UK.
Posted by: dave at November 01, 2005 11:31 AM (CcXvt)
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We have chosen not to accept government help for anything. We wouldn't mind the help, but we chose to have two kids, and I chose not to work. Friends of ours encouraged us to get WIC. There answer to why? Because it's there. The problem with that_too many people feel the same way. You see it all the time. The lady uses food stamps to purchase baby formula then heads out to her SUV. It's enough to make you sick. People just suck the government dry. And, the government encourages it!
Posted by: thirdee at November 01, 2005 11:39 AM (2Q47r)
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The first line about the Alternative Minimum Tax sounds like a good idea. I dunno about the rest of it...
There's a CPA who publishes at http://www.taxguru.net.
He's been agitating against the AMT for as long as I've been reading him--for the reasons mentioned in the article. Essentially, the AMT was set up for the wealthy, but it was never indexed to inflation, so a huge number of taxpayers will end up paying it in a few years.
Posted by: karrde at November 01, 2005 04:47 PM (65ApY)
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Fair tax people. Buy the book and call your Congressmen.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060875410/qid=1130886946/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-5090006-5738237?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 01, 2005 05:16 PM (0yYS2)
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What ever happened to "balanced budgets" ? We control both houses of Congress. We can only blame the liberals for so long. Our deficits are now worse than their deficits. How did YOUR reps and sinators vote ? Mine voyed straight pork.
Posted by: john Ryan at November 01, 2005 09:05 PM (ads7K)
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IMP: That looks much like the VAT, I was used to in the U.K, is that your reading on it too?
Posted by: dave at November 01, 2005 09:44 PM (CcXvt)
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We need to get behind Congressman Linder on the FAIR TAX. Al this bull about further complicating a tax code 40,000 pages long has gone on long enough. I can't believe we are still letting the government use taxes to control us. I wrote letters to all my reps in Florida and told them plainly and clearly that they needed to get behind the Fair Tax Plan. Some already are.
READ THE FAIR TAX BOOK! You'll be sold on the idea. No more IRS. Got to the wesite. fairtax.org
Posted by: Oyster at November 02, 2005 03:34 AM (YudAC)
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What happened to my typing skills?
Posted by: Oyster at November 02, 2005 09:00 AM (fl6E1)
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It is superficially similiar to the VAT dave, but it is just a sales tax at the retail level only, and does not apply to wages, or to any item on the wholesale level, as only the end-user pays the tax. The VAT applies at every level of trade, and still has the same problems of bookkeeping. The Fair Tax will end all Federal tax accounting for anyone who is not a retailer, and the accounting that remains will be so simple that there will be little need for CPA's and no need whatsoever for tax attorneys. See, part of the problem with the current structure is that there is a parasite class of lobbyists, lawyers, and CPA's who make money off of the Byzantine tax code. Another problem is that under the current structure, it's easy for the wealthy to hide their money and avoid paying taxes, like the Kennedys, who pay very little in taxes, though they are among the super-wealthy.
A retail tax would affect everyone equally at the point of sale, and so it follows that those who spend lots of money will pay lots of taxes. Also, it would eliminate the corporate income tax, thus encouraging the return of corporations to the US. The progressive tax is the brainchild of Marx, who conceived it for the sole purpose of destroying society. As we can see, the plan is working.
By the way, a good liberal is a dead liberal. Have a nice day!
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 02, 2005 09:56 AM (0yYS2)
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John, that's a valid point; most Republican Congressmen are not Reaganites, but rather more like whitewashed Democrats. they should be voted out in '06 and replaced with some young firebrands.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 02, 2005 03:54 PM (0yYS2)
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the idea of cutting taxes is to reduce the size of gevernment by starving it. If Bush goes on and eliminates much of the tax cuts. See what it seems to me is they are dropping many of the refundable and non refundable credits. Reagan left Bush I to deal with the tax increases and spending cuts that come after you choke the beast down. So I've been expecting this. W will have to raise some taxes and some spending will have to be cut. Gingrich was big time help last time. If Billary had gotten the health care passed we would really be in the red. I'll not be too pissed off. I've already gotten some good returns but I hope they do some spending cuts not just tax the hell our of us.
thiree. If your husband works and pays taxes and you qualify no harm in taking what you pay for. I would gladly watch my tax dollars go to the raising of two kids that I won't have to pay to house in the state pen. You have amde a conservative choice and I admire your refusal to take the WIC but many less deserving people take it. I would rather support your choice than those who just scam and never work.
Posted by: Howie at November 02, 2005 04:12 PM (D3+20)
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The rich of the world will always be targets but they will always win in the end. Wealthy people did not become wealthy because they are stupid. There will always be those that will kiss the asses of the wealthy. Just the way it is. This is a country
of the corporations
by the corporations and
for the corporations
and I love it. Ha, ha.
Posted by: Greyrooster at November 04, 2005 10:31 PM (ZaAd/)
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Change the tax laws. Are you nuts? Put all those tax attorneys and CPAs on the welfare rolls? I deserve the wealth my great grandfather left me. The poor should shut up and work harder. Thats what they are here for.
Posted by: Paris Hilton at November 04, 2005 10:37 PM (ZaAd/)
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Another Day in Yemen
In Yemen, censorship is expensive, officials complain, so its time to raise
internet costs by 50% to cover the costs of blocking websites.
150 textile workers striking for payment of back wages are surrounded by
200 police who then brutally beat
the journalists.
In a positive development, the government *promised* to stop buying weapons from brokers and selling the surplus to individuals.
Political Assassination, while a big deal in Lebanon, is commonplace in Yemen and doesn't warrant a broad investigation, even if the regime is implicated in the murder of a major political opposition figure for his secular views.
Unfortunately the lack of any substantial democratic progress has disqualified Yemen from receiving any funds from the Millennium Challenge Account, and the World Bank is cutting funding by 34% due to corruption, lack of transparency and good governance, but crime and corruption are much more lucrative for the elite, so no biggie.
Jane
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Yemen is not a nice place, very much like the rest of the Muslim world.
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 01, 2005 10:26 AM (rUyw4)
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Yemen, like Somalia, hardly deserves to be called a country. It is a lawless desert populated by primitive arab tribes. "Government" in Yemen is just a front for the tribe in power to do its will, and the law is what that tribe says it is-- period. They stay in power by bribery and assassination, exactly like the mafia does in the west. Yemen is also a haven for al-quaida types, so it's in our best interest to stay in the good graces of the Yemen government because they help keep a handle on it (much like Saudi Arabia).
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at November 01, 2005 10:31 AM (8e/V4)
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Especially for the Yemenis living there. The government is looting the treasury while theres little resources provided for education (46% of kids never start 1st grade), health care and clean water are mostly unavailable to the rural population who constitute 70% of the population. The police and courts function like a private mafia for the oligarchy.
Posted by: Jane at November 01, 2005 10:32 AM (M7kiy)
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No theres a strong democratic reform movment there. Yemen is on the verge of becoming a failed state due to the criminal activities of the regime.
as per my article
The government is pushing a radical ideology across the nation, closing moderate schools under the banner of reform, and trucking in Afghan Arabs to preach in the mosques. Its very bad and cant go on the way it is for either the people or the west, or our troops in Iraq.
Posted by: Jane at November 01, 2005 10:41 AM (M7kiy)
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Dang, the article link is not working, let me try it again:
here it is
Posted by: Jane at November 01, 2005 10:44 AM (M7kiy)
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Why am I the only oner that has to do the math ?? Soooo let's see the Yemeni rial is currently trading at 194.4 to the dollar. We will round it off to an even 200 to the dollar.So It used to cost 30 cents per hour for internet access, but now it costs 45 cents per hour. Average length of time for a porn site visit let's try 12 minutes. Average cost then would be 45 cents divided by 5 which equals 9 cents. A small price to us but perhaps significant to a Yemeni. I for one would be willing to have our government at least partially subsidize this increase.
Posted by: john Ryan at November 01, 2005 10:48 AM (ads7K)
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Yes especially when about half the people are living under $2.00/day. But the money would have to go directly to the subsidy without hitting the sticky hands of the officials. And internet access is even more important now when the government is cracking the heads of the non-governmental journalists and also has a monopoly on the broadcast media.
Posted by: Jane at November 01, 2005 10:54 AM (M7kiy)
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Also on the terrorism issue, the patterns of terroism report issued by state in 2004 noted that the yemeni govt reported a major AQ as killed in a fire fight with security forces, only to later admit they released him unharmed and he has not be pursued further. and i can tell you that some yemeni AQ reported as killed in Iraq are living well under the protection of tthe polical security forces in Yemen, so in my view, no they are not holding back the terrorists. theres more in the article.
Posted by: Jane at November 01, 2005 11:00 AM (M7kiy)
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Is there any indoor plumbing in Yemen? I imagine at any given moment a percentage of the population walking in the desert with a shovel in one hand and what - clumps of camel hair in the other?
Definitely not a place for a globe treker hiker.
Posted by: hondo at November 01, 2005 04:51 PM (ymtSt)
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Actually its a very beautiful country with mountains, beaches,historical architecture and a very temperate climate.
Posted by: Jane at November 01, 2005 04:53 PM (6krEN)
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Yemen is full of problems; corruption is becoming the rule rather than the exception. (Maybe this is what happens when a country tries to import democracy and western forms of government rather than living in its own terms and trying to internally evolve.)
Nevertheless, if you're going to bash a country (Jesusland Carlos and hondo) at least know what you're talking about. Being a Yemeni, I found your comments not only extremely offensive, but also grossly inaccurate, especially hondo's.
Yemen is not "a lawless desert populated by primitive arab tribes". If you check this
map you'll notice that most people live in the western mountainous region which has a hint of green in the map, indicative of agriculture and vegetation. That's the Yemen I know. I didn't see the desert until I was 17 (on a family cross-country vacation). Regarding the camel stereotype, they used to bring a camel specifically to our annual school fair for the student's amusement, that's how exotic camels were.
So please, until you visit Yemen or do some serious research ZIP IT.
Posted by: yemenphotos.ca at November 01, 2005 10:07 PM (e8nIH)
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nice pics
nice map
i needed a good map and i always like
good photos
Posted by: Jane at November 01, 2005 10:27 PM (6krEN)
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yemenphotos,
this one of your pictures of Sanaa with the moutains in the background looks like a desert to me:
http://www.pbase.com/eryani/image/47181762
Regarding the political situation in Yemen, I stand by what I said.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at November 02, 2005 12:04 AM (8e/V4)
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JC, do you really think its better to back this al-qaeda appeasing, criminal regime than to back the reformers, the technocrats, the pluralists, and the free speech advocates?
Theres an election next year, and the term of the president is seven years. In my view, if Saleh stays president for another seven years, it will be a disaster for the 20 million yemenis, the region, and the international community.
Also Saleh empowers and legitimizes the authority of the tribes and undermines civil institutions and he himself has nearly absolute power. For there to be a shift toward a decentralization of power into neutral, impartial institutions that function in the interest of the public, there has to be a type of purge of the corrupt officials at the top, something Saleh is unwilling and unable to do.
Posted by: Jane at November 02, 2005 06:01 AM (6krEN)
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Jane,
we should back whoever can best keep a lid on the muslim radicals.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at November 02, 2005 09:42 AM (8e/V4)
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Yes,that is my point, short term and
long term.
Its a
good idea that will not only secure our troops in Iraq but enable the diversity of political opinion in Yemen to compete fairly in the marketplace of ideas. Now any one who talks about pluralism, reform, or democracy is labeled an apostate by the government. Or a Zionist, thats another biggie.
Posted by: Jane at November 02, 2005 10:03 AM (M7kiy)
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I was joking - not a serious board - mostly conservative fun. I know Yemen. My education/work background is Geography/Geology and Civil Engineering.
Yemen is not a country. It is nothing more than a series of imaginary lines on a map drawn up during the decoloninization period by a British Surveyor/Cartographer and approved/accepted without any forethought by the House Of Saud. There were actually two quazi-nations until recent paper unification.
The only resemblance to a nation state is found in the capitol. Beyond that, it remains to this day as a tribal society at best beignly indifferent to any central authority. It has been this way throughout its recorded history.
Its presumed importance has been due to its location at the southern tip of the Arabian Penninsula. Britain, France, US etc (even the old Soviet Union) vied for influence there but all eventually threw in the towel as it being over-rated location-wise. (I remember the Soviet bug-out and mad dash out of Aden years ago).
Aden is and has always been a city-state - important once centuries ago as a mercantile port and trade route. The rest - wilderness populated by nomads and isolated villages indifferent to borders and any assemblance to nation.
Yemen has one chief export - Yemeni. You can find them around the world (particularly the Arab oil world) working. I am familiar with the Arab/Muslim world pecking order for discrimination and bigotry (we all do it to some degree). Yemeni are at the bottom along with ( belief it or not you unenlightened) the Palestinians.
I know Yemen but don't want to get to carried away with this. Its a lite board.
Posted by: hondo at November 02, 2005 10:22 AM (ymtSt)
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I used to be funny. Really. Ask anyone in the 'shpere who knew me a year of two ago. I dont know what happened to me in the last six months....
Posted by: Jane at November 02, 2005 01:00 PM (6krEN)
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Interesting bit of weird but useless information - Yemen may well be the only nation in the world (defininately Arab/Muslim world) that was once a declared Marxist Socialist Republic (South Y)and no one noticed ... especially the local population. The local indifference drove the Soviets batty.
Posted by: hondo at November 02, 2005 02:35 PM (ymtSt)
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They were able to provide basic services on a wide level and the administration was rather effectient. Since unification, southerners in general have been labeled apostates and fatwaed for their advocacy of a secular government. Further theres an aparteid almost in terms of governmental services, and the southerners find it nearly impossible to obtain any kind of civil service, governmental, or military position.
Posted by: Jane at November 02, 2005 03:06 PM (6krEN)
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The southern Yemeni's that I have met are the most modern in culture, less fundamentalist. But, they are looked down on in the general population. You can drive through Sanaa and see the caste system in action.
Parts of Yemen are very beautiful. From the mountains surrounding Sanaa, you have to overlook the SAM missile batteries on every top, to the volcanoes and desert in the Marib area. Just watch for the camels and have a few drinks before driving the mountain pass to there. The lack of traffic laws makes a drive anywhere an experience to remember.
Will this country ever turn around, most likely not. Even with a population living on less than $2.00/day, half of that is spent daily on qat. They are sitting on a tourist haven but due to the tribal infighting, they will never be able to realize it's true value. Kind of hard to have a vacation to see the Queen of Sheeba's palace or the tombs of Raydan when you have to hire bodyguards to go with you everywhere.
Posted by: Jon at November 04, 2005 10:02 PM (GKvSS)
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That was actually my question for a while. I know the governemental media villifies the southerners as seperatists and apostates, but I wasnt sure about the level of discrimination through the society itself, if the southerners were considered lesser citizens by the rest of the yemeni population. From what I understand it nearly impossible for a southerner to obtain a civil service, governmental or military position and there is a kind of purge on, as well as an economic administrative boycott of the region. Meanwhile the north and south were supposed to have come together as equal partners after the 1994 civil war. But it seems the northern appartatus is completely stomping on its old rivals. But I wasnt sure about the level of popular acceptence of this discriminatory designation and practices. The government is very very good at fear mongering.
Posted by: Jane at November 04, 2005 10:09 PM (ywZa8)
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Yemenphotos.ca: I always ask one question of you proud to be from back there types. If it was so great, why did you leave it? I know why. And you know why. If you admit it. The best thing I can tell you is go back and take another look at this latrine posing as a country.
Posted by: Greyrooster at November 04, 2005 10:24 PM (ZaAd/)
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Helllllllllllllo, the corrupt government is destroying the country for 27 years of dictatorship. It is a beautiful country and filled with many amazing and couragous and democratically oriented people who are fighting for liberty and justice in obscurity.
Posted by: Jane at November 04, 2005 10:31 PM (6krEN)
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Let me put it this way, there are many, many people in Yemen fighting for free speech, an independent judiciary, and a transparent government that operates in the equitable best interest of the citizenry. They are doing so at great personal risk to themselves. I dont care if they have a snowball's chance in hell of winning, Im sticking with them, because its the right thing to do. And yes its possible, democracy can win in Yemen. Stranger things have happened.
Posted by: Jane at November 04, 2005 11:08 PM (6krEN)
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And i have to say i dont give a flying frick when the yemeni government calls me a zionist, a cia operative, a paid operative of the socialists, a docile student of a monkey monk, or a hedgehog (that all with the last two months) but anybody calling the country a latrine irks me. Theres 20 million people in Yemen, half of them are kids, kids. Half are illiterate, half are under the poverty level. So we....do what? Goof on them? No. In my view, we stand with the people with the solutions who are struggling against enormous odds. And the solutions are very common sense and very do-able, written by a wide variety of intellectuals and technocrats. There is an answer, and its known.
Posted by: Jane at November 04, 2005 11:30 PM (6krEN)
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Democracy in Yemen is do-able, as in any society. The problem in Yemen is the tribal culture that dates back centuries. The bedouin tribal culture. The most important thing to them is family, clan, tribe and to never loss face. The south is not as tribal as the north. The Soviets did instill some good down there. That is why the northern poulation distrusts the southerners. They blame the south for starting the civil war in 1994 and do not really trust them today. Fear is a way of life over there. Every tribe distrusts the other tribe who distrusts the government and the army. The power lies in the tribal sheiks whose word is law. If that mold could be broken there might be a chance at true democracy, Inshalla
Posted by: Jon at November 04, 2005 11:54 PM (GKvSS)
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Corruption is rampant now and has grown dramatically worse in the last 4 years. Everyone who has the means has some type of scam going. To find and keep work, you have to payoff someone. This is the true land of Ali Babba and the 40 Thieves.
The journalists of the independent newspapers are the ones trying to report the truth but with the new and excisting laws it is now basically impossible. Nearly every building or area is considered an army installation or area of national security, All it takes is a policeman or soldier standing there. Whip out a camera, get it taken away and some questions asked. Though I did get a lot of good pictures.
Posted by: Jon at November 05, 2005 12:17 AM (GKvSS)
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Gotta love the journos.
The "parliament" is comprised of a very high percentage of sheiks and other tribal leaders, so that reinforces their authority. As does Saleh himself, like during the riots. He didnt respond to the mass of people on the streets, but to the tribes that hijacked the tankers. There he negotiated; the people he arrested. Its was very surprising to learn that all the violence against the people was perpetrated by opposition "sabatours in military uniforms," thats a quote. Even recently, a sheik was demending money from some people who refused to pay, and the people were imprisoned. So the presidient is doing everything he can to reinforce the traditional structures and disempower civil instutions. And the stronger the sheiks are, the more people will gravatate to them to solve problems. The police are a private mafia enforcement, and the people have absolutely no confidence in them to protect their interests. Thats one reason for all the weapons, you have to protect yorself. The police wont. And you're right about the corruption, large and small. The state is a cash cow for the party emembers and elite. Everybody else is starving.
Posted by: Jane at November 05, 2005 08:42 AM (M7kiy)
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Also the judiciary. Until the insitutions begin to function equitably, the tribal justice is much more effective and the only alternative to anarchy, because the courts now are very politicized and an instrument of personal power. Maybe is Saleh wasnt the head of the judiciary (the party, the military, ect ect), there might be some impartiality to the courts.
Posted by: Jane at November 05, 2005 08:51 AM (M7kiy)
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The opposition needs a bit of work too.
Posted by: Jane at November 05, 2005 09:28 AM (M7kiy)
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I'm going back, for better or worse, as soon as I get my degree.
Posted by: yemenphotos.ca at November 05, 2005 05:14 PM (e8nIH)
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all that i read in this forum is rubish specially by Yemenphoto.ca
if you ask me i'm from Aden (south) and we are just waiting for any one Amerian ...even israely to invade us any cut us loss of this unity they call Yemen.
as for the southrners we will allways be more libral, civil, educated and open to westren values than tose A%#$@&^ from the north.
so please go ahead and invade Yemen we will be wavieing your flag (who ever the f^%& it is) at the beach welcoming you in.
any responce please post otherwise my email is a fake.... tada...
Posted by: Aden at November 05, 2005 07:18 PM (pgZy9)
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Well I guess your post does give an idea about your education and civility, but perhaps there are more important defects than bad spelling and profanity.
Ad hominem attacks aside, I can see where you're coming from, and I do sympathize with your plight. Injustice is everywhere in Yemen, I agree maybe more in Aden, but this sentiment of wanting a western power to invade us is common across the country, not just in Aden (I hope the US warmongers are not listening.) Also, the US, or at least some of the views here, seem to indicate a very narrow interest in changing regimes, namely just to stop those elusive terrorists and terrorist ideology from damaging their interests. If a people is suffering silently, i.e. without any internationally significant side effects, the US wouldn't care less; it's capitalism at its best.
It is my belief that any foreignly imposed change is unsustainable in the long run. "Modernization" has to, somehow, come from within.
Posted by: yemenphotos.ca at November 06, 2005 04:48 AM (e8nIH)
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Well, I don't remember anyone in Yemen that I met being sentimental for a western power to takeover. Most the them expressed there support and sympathy for OBL and only tolerated our presence for economic reasons. Plus I really don't think any country would try to forcefully impose chance due to the distinct differences of the north and south. Saudi tried and look what they gained and they played both ends against the middle.
Posted by: Jon at November 08, 2005 11:03 PM (GKvSS)
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U.S. Military Bases in Romania
(Bucharest, Romania) From the standpoint of geopolitical strategy, this is an important reshuffling of players in the region.
From Xinhua:
US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is expected to visit Romania by the end of the year to sign an agreement setting up US military bases in Romania, Romanian Foreign Minister Razvan Ungureanu said on Monday.
The military deals are close to be completed, Romania's Mediafax quoted Ungureanu as saying.
The foreign minister made the remarks after meeting with his US counterpart Rice in New York.
Romanian President Traian Basescu told visiting US National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley on Oct. 23 that possible locations for the bases might be Babadag, close to the Danube delta, Constanta, on the Black sea, and Fetesti, 200 km east of Bucharest.
If a Black Sea naval base is included, which seems to be the case, the U.S. will be capable of easily projecting regional influence. Any
prudent student of international affairs would deem the expansion of U.S. influence in eastern Europe and western Asia a major development.
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Let the geopolitics begin! Lots of folks who used to see this region as their sphere of influence are not going to like this much.
Posted by: NOTR at November 01, 2005 04:33 AM (izx0t)
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Absolutely amazing when one thinks back to the Cold War. If the USA geta a Black Sea port Putin will NOT be pleased.
Posted by: Redhand at November 01, 2005 05:12 AM (TrmBs)
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But you are trading Romania and Bulgaria for Germany and the UK. Do you know how much harder that is to talk your wife into taking those orders......
Posted by: CDR Salamander at November 01, 2005 09:45 AM (m64uD)
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This is nothing more than a strategic move that recognizes the major new threat to security posed by Iran. I feel sure that Putin and the Russians were given assurances prior to any agreement for US bases in Romania.
Iran is now the number one threat to world security. One cannot be sure what the madman who leads Iran will do, but the US needs to surface a couple of nuclear submarines armed with nuclear warheads in the Persian Gulf for the Iranians to see. And it should be made very clear to the Iranians that these missles are aimed at them just in case the Iranians get stupid and think they can target the US or its interests in the area without fear of a massive retaliation.
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 01, 2005 10:18 AM (rUyw4)
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Putin is an idiot who should not spend one more day in office. He seeks to thwart America's efforts to fight terrorism while Russians are being murdered by terrorists, and turns a blind eye to the fact that Russian arms dealers are still supplying terrorists with weapons and explosives. He is just another of what my friend from Belarus calls an "unhappy old communist" who can't get over the fact that we won the cold war. He is taking Russia down a path from which there can be no return if things aren't done quickly to turn around. Russia is still hostile to foreign investment, corruption is rampant, Russians are emigrating as fast as they can, and the birth rate isn't even high enough to match the death rate. All these factors taken together spell the end of Russian history, yet Putin can't even bring himself to face reality and embrace the only nation on earth that can help.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 01, 2005 10:19 AM (0yYS2)
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Eventually all the slavs will kiss and make up with the Russians. Its only natural even given recent bad blood (exclusively associated with communism). Western Europeans never liked any of them anyway (and have an even longer history of bad blood with them).
Our relationship with Russia is strange. Under the surface (table) it is a hell of a lot better than most realize. Russia may be down but in time may well come back.
Post War W Europe has always been a collection of voyeur pussies. Soft and self-absorbed in their personal view of their social intellectual superiority and in their faded luxuries.
The slavs (all of them) are tough hard earthy people and nothing at all like the W Europeans. As long as we don't go all Starbucks and Continental - we got a lot to work with and in common with those slavs.
The future is not set - and a lot of people are looking for who to hook up with. Don't be surprised if the road to Eastern Europe leads to Russia with us on it - looking to hang out and pal around with people WE KNOW ARE NOT PUSSIES - and know how to party too.
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Posted by: A Finn at November 02, 2005 04:40 AM (cWMi4)
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Considering that the live birth rate in Russia doesn't match the emigration and mortality rate, Russia's future doesn't look good. Communism killed Russian culture, and destroyed any bonds of kinship that the people felt with one another, as well as creating an subculture of crime and corruption that permeates the entire society and every branch of government. It isn't possible to do business in Russia without paying massive bribes at every turn, and drug and alcohol abuse is so bad that the work force is incapable of meeting business needs. The glory of socialism wrought in full. Look at Russia and see the future of America if the liberals get their way.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 02, 2005 10:05 AM (0yYS2)
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Maxie
All true but there is hope. Russians are tough people - and they do have a quality not found it the West save the US. A strong sense and pride in nationalism. Nothing wrong with nationalism (it can be abused like anything else). "They'll Be Back" - what form it will take - who knows. It will not be communism. Many there consider it a patheticly failed imported joke that did nothing more than undermine the true Russian sense of self-identity.
Posted by: hondo at November 02, 2005 10:44 AM (ymtSt)
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I hope you're right hondo, but the trends indicate a rapid circling of the drain. The infrastructure is dilapidated, the military is hovering near death, and the people just don't care. I would really hate to see one of the great European cultures disappear, but I'm afraid that's the way it will be.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 02, 2005 03:52 PM (0yYS2)
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I agree with Hondo. Russians are tough. They will be back. I see them as allies in the war against islamofacism.
Posted by: greyrooster at November 06, 2005 12:25 AM (ZaAd/)
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Pictures of Key West During and After Wilma
These photos of Wilma's devastation are courtesy of a friend who stayed on the island during the storm, for want of better judgment. The pictures are of a place that people who have been to Key West might know--a local eatery called
Louie's Back Yard--together with an absolutely awesome picture from my friend's balcony during the storm surge.

What's left of Louie’s Back Yard
My neice was a waitress there. One could sit on the deck, sipping something stronger than cola next to a huge Banyan tree, to watch the ships sail in and out of the channel at dusk:

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My ex was named Wilma - I recognize her in the photos
Posted by: hondo at October 31, 2005 10:06 PM (ymtSt)
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051101/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq;_ylt=AhLzW7bzP3wc.XteFV2aWoes0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--
Posted by: Route Irish at November 01, 2005 01:39 AM (Eh9tH)
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Was Wilma also caused the Joooooish Helliburton CIA weather machine, or the alien mothership?
Oh by the way Retard Irish, nobody clicks your idiotic spam links.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 01, 2005 10:21 AM (0yYS2)
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Maxie
Did Wilma do that - I don't know. I got custody 15 years ago and since had very little contact with her. But I wouldn't put it past her.
Route Irish is easy to deal with - he takes up little space with his non-linked links which nobody bothers with. Better that than a 10 paragraph ramble.
Posted by: hondo at November 01, 2005 01:00 PM (ymtSt)
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I notice in the first picture the house is still intact i guess they built it well
Posted by: sandpiper at November 03, 2005 08:13 PM (I9Upt)
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Nice picture. I would send one of Waveland and Pass Christian, Ms but there is nothing to take pictures of. Excluding a few trees with laundry and cars in them.
Posted by: Greyrooster at November 04, 2005 06:23 AM (ZaAd/)
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THE LAST PICTURE, SHOWING THE SURGE COMING INTO WHAT WAS A GARDEN - WAS ONCE THE OCEAN.
IT WAS VERY FRIGHTENING - I HAD A DREAM ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO - WHICH WOKE ME OUT OF MY SLEEP - A VERY SOUND SLEEP. AND, THE DREAM DEPICT EXACTLY WHAT WILMA DID - ONLY THE OCEAN WAS SEEN FOR MILES AND MILES - CRYSTAL BLUE WATERS AND ENDING AT THE SOUTHERNMOST POINT. IT WAS LIKE THE BODY OF WATER CLAIM ITS LAND. ONLY TOLD MY MOTHER AT THE TIME OF THE DREAM. WE BELIEVE DREAMS ARE MESSAGES PROPHESIED - WARNING US OF OUR DUTIES, OBSTACLES AND FULLFILMENT ON THIS EARTH - OUR PURPOSE!
PAST BOHEMIANS, SPANISH, BLACK AND WHITE PERSONS OF THIS COMMUNITY WITH ARTISTIC AND LITERARY TASTES BUILT THIS BLESSED ISLAND AS A PLACE OF SERENITY AND COMFORT WITH THE MOST HIGH - BUT OVER THE YEARS IT HAS BEEN TURNED INTO THE MOST DISRESPECTFUL, UNDESIRABLE FORTIFICATION OF WHAT WAS ONCE AWAY FROM IT ALL.
WE ONLY WALK THIS WAY ONCE!
Posted by: LUNETTE at November 07, 2005 02:09 PM (Vu3TP)
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Col Todd Wood Killed in Iraq by Bombers.
The highest ranking member of our fine military killed in Iraq died today. He was killed by a cowardly bomber. Col. Wood died in the line of duty leading his men.
CNN: Wood, based at Forward Operating Base Falcon in the northern province of Babil, had responded to a roadside bomb Thursday and was giving orders to his men as they secured the area when a secondary explosion blew him backwards into a canal, killing him instantly, the military said.
Wood, 44, was based at Fort Stewart, Georgia. He is survived by his wife and daughter.
Thanks for your service and sacrifice Mr. Wood and Family our prayers are with you and with all our men fighting so hard this week.
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To know just how heroic these guys are read a book called Imperial Grunts by Robert Kaplan. It explains everything about "forward operating bases", the special forces, our non-commissioned officer corps, the Pentagon's "map" of the world, you name it. Fascinating read and it will open your eyes up to how our military works like nothing else I've ever read. This Col. Wood was a true professional, a hero, and a great American.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at October 31, 2005 05:13 PM (8e/V4)
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I don't need a book, just my memories. The death of any soldier is a loss, but this is more so, because good commanders take years to make. But you know what? That's one thing we're good at. We could lose ten battalion commanders for every terrorist "mastermind" we kill, and we'd still be winning, because in our military are some of the best and brightest our nation produces, and we produce them by the hundreds and thousands, whereas a 'slamotard with an IQ over 100 is about as common as frog-fur coats.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 31, 2005 05:19 PM (0yYS2)
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In the field with his men - a true soldier - he will not be forgotten - he will be missed - he can rest with the knowledge that countless others stand ready to carry on in his place.
Posted by: hondo at October 31, 2005 07:19 PM (ymtSt)
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In today's Army, there is little room for those who don't lead from the front. When you consider that today's is a volunteer, and that most, if not all, could have chosen just as easily to remain a civilian, but didn't, it really says something. Those who birthed the wretched Boomers have been called the Greatest Generation because they won WW2, but they were mostly drafted and had little choice. Not to diminish their sacrifices, but those were different times.
Every soldier, sailer, airman, and Marine in theaters of deployment today, especially on the sharp end, are there because
they are truly the greatest generation, because they are there of their own free will, risking their all for the sake of others, with no hope of a great reward, or even the gratitude of those they help or many of their countrymen. They offer their lives and futures so that freedom will not die. Like Patton said, we should not mourn the deaths of these men, we should be grateful that such men lived.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 31, 2005 08:36 PM (0yYS2)
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Check the name on this one. CNN issued an incorrect report, and killed a soldier who is still alive. The officer who died was Col. William Wood, not Todd Wood.
Posted by: JSullen at October 31, 2005 09:37 PM (AJnuk)
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Jesus. Not only can't they get the facts right, they can't even get names right.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 31, 2005 11:38 PM (0yYS2)
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/103105N.shtml
Posted by: Route Irish at November 01, 2005 01:40 AM (Eh9tH)
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Well CNN correctly reported what the DoD gave out to them. The DoD reported his name as Col. William W Wood. They also reported his death as occurring last Thursday, Oct 27th.http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/2005/nr20051031-5023.html 30 -40 years ago one sure way of telling whether someone was a FNG, a REMF, or was short was by how much respect he gave his enemy. We are engaged with a dedicated,resourcefull, and adaptable enemy. I do not think that we should denigrate our OWN effort by trivializing our opponent. This is a tough fight.
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